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They opposed it, right into the 1970s. this idea of open borders, anybody coming across no matter who they are, what they are, what their backgrounds are, this idea is a new idea in this country, despite the propaganda we hear from the president, his party, and leaders in the republican party. a nation has the right to secure its border. it has a right to know who is coming, and it has a right to know who they are. >> we have talked at length. there are some conservative governors who have done great jobs, i would argue including governor perry in the state of texas, but there are timid, weak ...

Me why he believes this could be president obama's katrina moment. here is fox news channel contributor karl rove, sir, how are you? >> fabulous. welcome to texas. >> great to be back. all right, simple question. you heard the governor. i don't think the president really wanted this meeting. kind of seemed pressured into it because of the governor saying he's not going to meet him on the tarmac. what was your reaction? >> i thought it was very smart on perry's part to force this. the governor made it clear there would be a price that president obama didn't want to pay. i also thought thwhat wa...

Up for health care. president obama defended himself. >> i am the champion in chief of comprehensive immigration reform. [ applause ] but what i've said in the past remains true, which is until congress passes a new law, then i am constrained in terms of what i'm able to do. >> jose diaz co-moderated that town hall event we just saw there. jose, good to see you let's start with the deportations. simple question, has president obama gotten a pass on deportations because he's a democrat? >> in some ways, yes, craig. but i have to tell you, if he weren't deporting 1,100 people every single day as...

Almost just about two thirds lower than what they had been expecting. 200,000. and the labor force participation rate, the number of people actually out there available for work declined again. half a million fewer people in the labor force. >> that means they retired, right? they are out of here. >> they retired or discouraged workers. >> how does the government know that? i mean, how do they know they are out oof the labor force. >> that's one of your trick questions, isn't it? >> no. it's a stupid, simple question. how do they know? >> they survey households. they survey employers. and they...

>> no one is going to sign up. >> $67 a month. >> no one will sign up if you can pay on your parents' insurance. that's where obamacare falls. >> in the back. >> it is the height of personal responsibility to pay for health care. if you walk into an emergency room without health care you get treated. who pays for that? everybody on this panel. now you get 24, 25-year-old kids getting coverage, they are covered. >> david, last word. >> can i ask a simple question ? >> real quick. >> guys, simple question. what's the unemployment rate amongst the young? how are they going to pay for something wh...