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Instead of deciding based upon people's movements around the world that might be suspicious, going to countries that cause us trouble, i just look for everybody that looks arab. i put them in one line. the american people would say that's outrageous. >> that's a problem. >> that's what this is like. >> well, in a sense. what the criteria should have been are things like whether the organization was formed within, say, a year of an election. these things spring up like mushrooms in anticipation of election. they should have picked factors like. >> i get you. it's like buying your airplane ticke...

Democrat on the finance committee, essentially challenging the irs to go after these tax exempt groups. so there is a sense -- while we don't know to what extent the irs at least we don't know now to what extent they were responding to those questions, we do know they were made and could have been a motive here for the irs. >> for sure. no question about it. guess what? they have newspapers and tv's in cincinnati too. and the requests coming from congress, from democrats, the whole suggestion that these 501 c groups were these new nefarious groups that really need additional oversight because ...

Social welfare organization. i want to pick up where we just left off. who was responsible? he could barely get him to say that he talked to nancy and then nancy told him who was responsible but he can't remember who it was? >> well, i have got the names who were ho were the agents involved in this. i don't know why they are having a difficult time determining this because they all sent out letters, megyn. i have got them. because i have 27 compliance i have them from four offices. they know the agents names. they know the supervisors names. they know the group managers' names. i worked my fir...

But beyond that, the report, you cut through all the bureaucratic language and it's pretty blistering. the people who did this in cincinnati, the determinations unit, didn't even understand what the rules were for tax exempt organizations. the report says that in multiple passages and these are the people making these decisions. the inappropriate criteria lasts for 18 months. the high level officials become aware of this and try to change the criteria, they're being asked multiple questions by members of congress and they don't reveal anything about the problems that are, this were going on an...

Form of profiling. so, that was a bit troubling even if it was a little amusing. but beyond that, the report, you cut through all the bureaucratic language and it's pretty blistering. the people who did this in cincinnati, the determinations unit, didn't even understand what the rules were for tax exempt organizations. the report says that in multiple passages and these are the people making these decisions. the inappropriate criteria lasts for 18 months. the high level officials become aware of this and try to change the criteria, they're being asked multiple questions by members of congress ...