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Lived a similar life to the duggars. you say both josh duggar's actions and how this family responded could have been predicted. why do you say that? >> i believe that the family particularly jimbob and michelle duggar were following what they consider to be biblical principles in dealing with this sort of situation. rather than seeing it as a crime and looking at it you know according to the law, or according to therapy and the sort of secular discipline they're going to see it through spiritual eyes. they're going to see it as a sin problem that has to be dealt, with the heart and, you know,...

You know, what's it going to take for us to sit down and really work on these problems? >> first of all i think there is great hope. i said the gospel gives us hope. it gives mankind hope. i have seen people join together. i have seen pastors in these communities. i have seen community leaders join hands. i have seen and heard myself from people in the police force who don't have these same feelings who aren't a part of the brutality who want those things to change. so while it may change and we are watching it on tv and nothing positive happening i'm encouraged that there really are people ou...

A big republican ideas conference held in the bayou and one of the headliners was this guy. >> you got two problems, gop, that you can't solve. one of them is a sin problem. g gop -- you can't be right for america if you're wrong with god. >> phil robertson famous for "duck dynasty" for his lucrative family business making duck calls, epic beard and his presence seemed odd even to him at this leadership council. >> i guess the gop may be more desperate than i thought to call somebody like me. >> that microphone hum adds a nice note in that. that is by far not even clos to the most bonkers thin...

>> it's time to say -- >> enough. >> if we don't deal with the substance abuse issues and the mental illness issues -- >> we have no national database of these lunatics. . >> isn't that the internet is? >> we don't have a crime problem a gun problem. what we have is a sin problem. >> i think you are worried that the federal government is going to come after our guns. >> nobody is trying to take away your begun. >> the third reich, no one saw that coming until it was too late. >> hitler took the guns, stalin took the guns. mao is took the guns. >> limiting your second amendment rights is priori...

Friends and all for our help in the physical and emotional survival of others. and a convenience store clerk who died at the hands of abuser, we don't have a crime problem or a gun problem or even a violence problem, what we have is a sin problem. since we've ordered god out of our schools, the military and public conversations we shouldn't act so surprised when all hell breaks loose. [applause] well, we want to go to our fox news correspondent in aurora with the latest. >> governor the president has come down to support those dealing with the tragedy in aurora, we're getting the closest look ...