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Negotiation, and that's not just countries that have a single payer system or government-controlled health care system or socialist. it's every other country, whether it has a market-based system or single payer system. >> and sam, to me there's a method to this madness because the things he's promised that he walked away from, the things were popular. they were both breaks with other people in the republican field that distinguished him, and they were always politically popular. >> right. and i think in terms of economic populism the only thing he's basically stuck to his guns on to some exte...

And the idea that they're chanting "drain the swamp" this week of all weeks, where it can't get more explicit that they are the swamp, i think is indicative of a problem that exists in the base of the republican party. >> what do you think, jennifer? >> absolutely. you'd never know it from watching fox news, which is where these people get their news. and that is the problem. it's a closed system. so i absolutely agree. the core of trump's message was actually racism and xenophobia. and that's why he keeps going back to it again and again whenever he gets into some political trouble or there's...

Editor in chief of kaiser health news author of "an american sickness how health care became a big business and how you can take it back." libby, let me start with you. i think we have forgotten just how heterodox donald trump was on the subject of health care and the promises he made during the campaign versus how he's governed including today's drug decision. >> sure. he said that we should be able to negotiate drug prices at a large-scale level, and today what we saw is a proposal with 50 points turning somersaults not to allow the government to do just that. and some of the proposals are g...

Drug company rebates. but nothing does what every other developed country does to control drug prices, which is allow for large-scale direct negotiation, and that's not just countries that have a single payer system or government-controlled health care system or socialist. it's every other country, whether it has a market-based system or single payer system. >> and sam, to me there's a method to this madness because the things he's promised that he walked away from, the things were popular. they were both breaks with other people in the republican field that distinguished him, and they were al...

>> -- number of promises because he understands who his core audience is and they want to see those type of things. i watched that indiana -- or indianapolis rally. and the idea that they're chanting "drain the swamp" this week of all weeks, where it can't get more explicit that they are the swamp, i think is indicative of a problem that exists in the base of the republican party. >> what do you think, jennifer? >> absolutely. you'd never know it from watching fox news, which is where these people get their news. and that is the problem. it's a closed system. so i absolutely agree. the core of...