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However, there is an iron he had a hit hidden victory over these last several years, people's expectations have changed. you watched the debate over the last three months. what are the grounds? they are liberal grounds. how many people will lose their coverage? how can you lead people out of my cold? with jimmy kimmel thing. it is showing that the people is at a point where i think it believes in universal coverage. once you are there, the ground is shifted. republicans and conservatives are going to have a hard time arguing for a consumer-based market oriented health care system. we are in a ...

Said this. with the inception of obamacare, there is a paradigm shift in the country and we are now all on liberal ground. the purpose of government is to provide health insurance and it's the right of the american people to have that insured and guaranteed. he thinks ultimately we will wind up with a single-payer and it will be medicare for all. by the way, medicare is going broke. >> sandra: surely, you have something to say about this. to be blasting these efforts, is this good for the country question mike >> meghan: no it's not. i think there's a lot of falsehood being pointed around on a...

Debating about people getting access who have pre-existing conditions? >> eboni: the political consequences are very high. someone coming out and saying the reality of more coverage for more people and bringing down health care premiums is virtually impossible under the current economic model. nobody wants single-payer. >> kat: there is no incentive to provide better care. great idea. >> eric: the reason why you are saying health care is a right is because they called the mandate constitutional. that's the only reason why you could say that. once you remove the mandate, which this new legislat...

Guarantee. >> chris: it's a right. >> even republicans are trying to say were not going to lose that many. yes, you will be covered. if you have a pre-existing condition. the terms of debate are entirely on the grounds of the liberal argument that everybody ought to -- once that happens, you're going to end up with a single-payer. >> chris: how do you get there? you are saying the senate is not going to replace pass this? to go in the short term, i think they will not accept the house plan. it will come up with the plan of its own and go to conference but who knows where it's going to end up b...

And restoring genuine private health care in this country for people who want a real private option. >> eric: mark steyn's plan, do you know how much that would cost us? trillions of dollars. >> kat: i don't think it looks good. so much of the focus is, this would be really bad politically if it doesn't pass and i think what people are focusing on that incident this is a great bill, you're going to love it, then it's kind of a bad sign. i know trump was for single-payer but the attitude of having to repeal and replace, repeal and replace. this is keep it and tweak it a little. >> eboni: and ca...