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Particularly concerned about what happens to kids who don't get the health care they need. >> right. >> and i gave a really hot speech and i got hammered for it repeatedly because i don't know what the way forward will be for others, walt, but for me, trying to convey my commitment, my lifelong commitment, and not only that, what i've done and, you know, i've put up against anybody who ran or thought of running what i've already accomplished compared to what they have on behalf of people, it just is very difficult to go from intensity, passion, emotion, to anger. so, yeah. try to stay on the o...

So before we went to the monterrey, california and i was trying them out just seeing what they can do and i was checking out the zoom and bringing it back, bringing it forward, just seeing if i could get good clarity on them and i guess it was the day and i zoomed in as much as i can and it was really far out too, 150 yards from our balcony so i was trying to keep it steady. i was holding it. i didn't have anything to put it on so i was trying to hold it really steady plus the adrenaline it was really off the hook adrenaline. >> i can only imagine. we see this shark splashing around. karen, i ...

But our future plans. i think the members are experiencing that, there's a lot of conversation gown on, and i think -- going on, and i think we'll see positive movement going forward. eric: how do you make sure the senate doesn't strike out on it? >> well, i think that'll be the million dollar question for the senate. i i think the senators have had a lot of suggestions on how we're doing it, but i will throw it back to the senate saying you're part of the reason we're having to do it this way, the way that your rules are set up in the senate. so i would encourage those senators who have been ...

I applaud your interest in bringing democrats to the table. but you also know the reality that's not going to that. there wasn't much interest for the democrats cooperating with republicans anyway. and doing it through reconciliation essentially tells the democrats we're going to try o get this through with 51 votes in the united states senate. so two questions, is this bill today, the bill you discussed tonight, is it better than a bill of a week ago. from your perspective? meaning has the president helped or hurt from the perspective of congressman leonard lance. and number two, what happens...

That would normally rally around a conservative cause, you have quite a few, fair to say, that are not? >> they could tank this. there's the possibility if they do the things they say they're going to do, nothing gets done. here's the problem and i hope everyone recognizes this. the big welfare state was built up by democrats who were smart enough to do it incrementally. every year make it bigger, bigger. republicans, especially conservatives, we have to recognize we cannot take it down overnight. we'll fail. if we're smart we can undo it year by year by year. that's how you're successful. i w...