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Sees this probe play out. his lawyers see this probe with 19 people at least being charged with criminal offenses and including for lying, i think the president understands the gravity of the situation and as we know he has not formally agreed to a sitdown interview. but what it seems to me from talking to sources, don, is that the lawyers wanted to go ahead and take the steps to just begin preparing him, taking those initial steps and even though that final decision hasn't been made yet. >> that is a very smart strategy. i have to admit. john, listen, when under oath, if the president is unde...

In order to stop the perpetrators. time and time again -- semi automatic, one shot per trigger, that is all that means. we have seen other people with ar 15s any times able to defend those who need defending. people who are waiting for the police and guns to come. why don't we make sure those regulation requirements who have a firearm are able to do so on campus. >> what would you say to an idea of much stricter background checks on weapons like this? instead of just a test that this disturbed young man had no prior criminal record, what if it was a sitdown interview or more of a process to ge...

Mueller, you agreed to a sitdown interview. now he can say i was forced to testify. >> like giving him cover. >> it's giving him cover. that is also maybe what congress wanted to do today by issuing a subpoena. they wanted him to have cover in order to testify freely. >> one of the things we haven't seen yet and it's a big difference between watergate where democrats obviously were the majority, we haven't seen the congressional committees go to war with the white house about this stuff. there's been fights. there's been negotiations, some criticism particularly on the senate side from richard...

What it does is it marginalizes by comparison the obsessions of the media, whether it's about his language, even russia. russia comes off as superfluous because all of the people -- if you went up to somebody there and you said it did you hear they are in paneling with mark they would say i don't give a. i'm glad he's destroying isis, he's going after regulations. save about the russia collusion because i don't care. >> dana: the president had stomach hasn't done a sitdown interview for a while, he's able to talk to people with social media. he's held a rally in which he gets more people to co...

Concerns for people. what it does is it marginalizes by comparison the obsessions of the media, whether it's about his language, even russia. russia comes off as superfluous because all of the people -- if you went up to somebody there and you said it did you hear they are in paneling with mark they would say i don't give a. i'm glad he's destroying isis, he's going after regulations. save about the russia collusion because i don't care. >> dana: the president had stomach hasn't done a sitdown interview for a while, he's able to talk to people with social media. he's held a rally in which he g...