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They need to get good paying, and demand jobs. wherever i go, and wisconsin last week, we had a real skill gap between the skills people need to get good jobs and the good jobs that are out there being offered. this is something that we really have to address and i'm very pleased that they're moving part of this legislation. later today, armed services committee chairman, matt thornberry will reveal the third installment in his effort to streamline the pentagon's bureaucracy and improve the way that we develop weapon systems. this is an essential part of our efforts to rebuild our military for...

Do you agree with the assessment? >> yeah, it is nice to have less drama. but the point i'm trying to make, and i tried to make this the other day at my press conference, people in the country need to know that we are busy at work trying to solve their problems. so i realize that there's a lot in the media these days. that doesn't seize up congress. that doesn't stop us from doing our jobs, to work on people's problems. one of the reasons i just read you the list of just what we've done this week on closing the skill gap, streamlining i.t. to get waste out of government, make the pentagon more...

-- how can it not exist? we took tech out of high school, at the same time we told an entire generation that their best hope for success was a four-year degree. the most expensive path becomes the best path for the most people. at the same time, all these other jobs which are linked to this very fundamental form of education are completely marginalized because we send a really powerful message. if you don't just take vocational technical training out of high schools and data be the end of it. that sets all kinds of dominoes in place. none of them are pretty and they all fall down. >> tucker: i...

Entire generation that their best hope for success was a four-year degree. the most expensive path becomes the best path for the most people. at the same time, all these other jobs which are linked to this very fundamental form of education are completely marginalized because we send a really powerful message. you don't just take vocational technical training out of high schools and data be the end of it. that sets all kinds ofoo dominos in place. none of them are pretty and they all fall down. >> tucker: i hate being political but we are inin washington, these don't happen without forces movi...

Nothing to do with unemployment, not really. the skill gap proves that opportunity alone is not enough to get people unemployed. really, neither is training. you can have all the opportunity and training in the world but if you do not have underlying appreciation for work, if you're not talking about jobs that people affirmatively aspire to, you will be pushing the boulderi up the hill. tilting the windmill or whatever self-defeating metaphor makespu the most sense to you. it is a suckers abet. you have to be talking about jobs that are uniformly cared about in order to move forward. >> tucker...