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Attack aircraft and russian paratroopers drop in. this is a scale of conflict i never dreamed of. >> david, part of your work now is identifying the most well-suited volunteers, sorting out those that you call combat terrorists and even extremists that apparently reached out to you. give us an idea of how you determine that someone is doing this for the right reasons. >> sure. one of the hardest things is the chaos that's happened as we had thousands of volunteers in the first few days. and so we go through a vetting process where individuals with the correct backgrounds verify military servic...

Timeline. >> one more on jeff zion. he and dr. shaw have very different background. different skill sets. so what does that say about how the stage of the pandemic has evolved from then and now? >> sure. i would say what it says is that jeff zion's super power is he is a managerial guru of sorts and someone who has taken those skills to a range of jobs he's had throughout his career. including in the obama-biden administration when he oversaw the fixing of healthcare.gov and the fixing of the technology that was severely broken and outdated within government at that time. so when we came in to...

Are fighting the russians to a standstill, or are the russians making progress in ways that aren't measured by advances in the front line? >> i think we're going to be careful here at the pentagon in terms of providing a qualitative report card assessment here and putting a name on it, standstill or what have you. what i would tell you, david, is that the ukrainians continue to fight back very bravely and skillfully. you've heard me use the word creatively, and i would say that that continues to be the case. they are making good use of their own knowledge, their own situational awareness, thei...

Days. does that means the ukrainians fighting the russians to a stand still or are the russians making advancements than not in the front lines. >> they are making good use of their own knowledge, their own situational awareness, their skill sets and they are making good use of the material that they are getting. not just from the united states but many other nations as well. in the two plus weeks they have

Making any progress on the ground. you say that most days. does that mean that the ukrainians are fighting the russians to a standstill or are the russians making progress in ways that are not measured by advances in the front line? >> we'll be careful at the pentagon in terms of providing a qualitative report card. a standstill or what have you. what i will tell you, the ukrainians continue to fight back very bravely and skillfully. you've heard me use the word "creatively." i'd say that that continues to be the case. they're making good use of their own knowledge, their own situational aware...