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Department last night about the case, and agreed, based on new evidence, that it should be reviewed. but it is clear to say, fred, that they are trying to emphasize here that it is not a white house matter. now, one major caveat here, fred, that i have to tell you, is you remember last july, when you had sergeant crowley and professor skip gates head-to-head over a racial matter. i was in that briefing with robert gibbs at the goggle at 9:00 morning in the office when the president said he's not going to talk about this, no more on this racial matter, and it was just a few hours later we saw t...

Skip gates or sergeant crowley, we saw the president come out and make a surprise statement and talk about it to cool things down. i asked whether or not that will happen. i got no response. so it's going to be interesting to see what level of involvement president obama will have in this, whether he will reach out to ms. sherrod himself or we will hear regrets. all of that is yet to play out. >> you're going to need a beer after all of that construction work. who was among the first and fastest to throw shirley sherrod under the bus? the naacp, the group that you would think would have at l...

That there are a lot of things happening in terms of education to right the disparities that are there, but in order to have the conversation that you're talking about, dylan, it requires, you know, to talk tough topics, have a conversation that we have seen time and time again. can i list the number of teachable moments we've had for at least the last 20 years where we've said, no, this time will be the last time we do this. we will move forward together hand in hand and here we are one year after the skip gates arrest where that was yet another teachable moment, and once again we're trying t...

Have reined in the mississippi river and stop the natural process of floodwaters going into those marshes and bringing with it a lot of sediment that keeps up the land mass there? and are you going to put bp on the hook for that? >> well, look, john. i don't think the president -- and i don't think anybody's going to get down quite to that level at this point. we're focused on the response and we want to be ready for a restoration project. they're going to be responsible for the damage that's created. there will be an assessment of the cost to the environment that is been caused by this disast...

In the inner circle that he didn't want to identify himself. that race didn't want to be such a factor until he was forced to confront it with the philadelphia speech because of jeremiah wright. and then again, the skip gates event after he had been elected that we should not be making so much of race. but he has, as you describe in the book, really had to work very hard to reach this comfort level. >> well, i think that he reached his own comfort level by the time he was in his early 20s. it has to do with other people, how they see him and deal with him. i think barack obama has other diffic...