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Vaughn says we didn't have military commissions then. why don't republicans just admit bush did this too? >> you know, why the charge of them playing politics and -- both sides want to play a little bit of politics on this, no doubt. but that's why the charge that they are playing politics with this issue is sticking. there seems to be -- look, the real ideological divide here, sort of the difference, the democrats believe that you can use the criminal justice system to do -- to fight the war on terror, and republicans believe you shouldn't. that is the ultimate divide here. the problem, and i...

Mirandized richard reid and trying him in the civilian courts was a bad idea. >> he is serving a life sentence right now. he will never get out. how is that a failure? >> you don't get the information you need. >> oh. okay. that was missouri republican senator kip vaughn. >> my wife was walking through the room yesterday, and "the daily rundown" was on. when i came on, she said, oh, my good, did you see kip vaughn on "the daily rundown?" and she just -- train wreck. why senators should never go on shows. it was really bad. >> oh, my gosh. i thought you were talking about chuck and savannah aga...

It wasn't appropriate, there might be questions raised going to this paid event. sarah palin is getting $100,000. she says she will plow it back into the tea party. lots of questions. seems to me the tea party is more effective at the state level than in any kind of national convention. >> right. i totally agree with that. i think it's a very diffused dpru group and if you look at bob mcdonnell and the new governor and senator from massachusetts. i cite this politico. they didn't necessarily pander to them, but they were smart about using the sort of resources with the money and the manpower t...

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