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Blamed, who can give discipline to all of those responsibilities, even if they can't give discipline to the president skps president, and that's okay. there have been presidents who have functioned without a, quote, chief of staff. i don't think they did very well without a chief of staff, but there have been presidents even in modern times, jimmy carter didn't have a chief of staff for some time. >> i was going to say, can you give us an example? >> jimmy carter did not want a chief of staff when he first became president. he came to realize he needed one, and he put jack watson in place, and...

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>> harry, you know, you say that this stoer has the potential so send shock waves not just into the trump campaign and to the officials there, but throughout the republican party. explain that. what does she do? they hit on the idea of going through the nra, skps she does first, in fact, and foremost attract and get next to a 56-year-old kind of social climbing member of political conservative sishlgs. he used to run pat buchanan's

It last night. they considered it a slap in the face to the african-american community that she would serve in some type of outreach role and in some ways she may have kept people out of the white house or made it more difficult for outreach. how do you see it? >> i think that she's ill-equipped in any outreach kps. you saw her reaching out to wendy williams. this is someone who exercises a strategy of burning bridges she has to cross later, much like the president. no surprise here. i think really the issue for me at this point is, i'm kind of over this. i don't know why omarosa's getting thi...

Been filled, yes, the secretary tillerson has responsibility, no question about it, but it's clear he's not getting the support from the white house. >> so will you be pleased when he leave kps. >> i'm not going to comment on that. i can tell you what i'm looking for is a state department that prides itself in it's career diplomats in the mission that they perform and has a person as secretary of state and president of the united states who will support their mission through resources and the way that they talk about diplomacy. >> next secretary of state would have to be confirmed by your comm...