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The level of knowledge they had on the inside. and finding that initial point of entry and then from there tracing it back and trying to find out, you know, what systems they were using, when they were using it and traitsing it back originally to an individual country or group or hacker collective. that's typically the steps you see in these type of breaches. >> i have two thoughts. one is that it's a bunch of people sort of mit lab type people. harvard, whatever, sitting in a room and planning for months and years and come up with scientific and spending a lot of time doing it that's in one c...

The level of knowledge they had on the inside. and finding that initial point of entry and then from there tracing it back and trying to find out, you know, what systems they were using, when they were using it and traitsing it back originally to an individual country or group or hacker collective. that's typically the steps you see in these type of breaches. >> i have two thoughts. one is that it's a bunch of people sort of mit lab type people. harvard, whatever, sitting in a room and planning for months and years and come up with scientific and spending a lot of time doing it that's in one c...