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Us for people familiar with the meeting was that, you know, the whole thing left people slack-jawed. >> it did me as well, reading it. courtney kube, nbc military reporter, thank you. >> thanks, joy. still ahead, he said, he said, how close to the white house and the president himself really get to the fox news conspiracy theory about the death of seth rich. we've got new information on that front. stay with us. hey! this is lloyd. to prove to you that the better choice for him is aleve. he's agreed to give it up. ok, but i have 30 acres

Germany references. let's save that for when there is a legitimate fascist anti-semite calling for the destruction of the jewish peopl people. let's save it for that. >> smears the press and tries to scapegoat minorities -- >> smearing the press is it different from legitimately building concentration camps. >> tom: he was making eight joking reference to being put on a list, which i think it's proven that he has been. he saying it's worse than ever, even though he is not a trump supporter, he is lumped in with them. >> slack-jawed is the preferred way to read things on slate, you get the most...

But, so is president obama in his way. i've always said, he's like, you know, first bell at hall of fame of all time politicians. a black guy with the middle name "hussein" that gets elect eed president of the united states, twice. that's an amazing feat. bill clinton's an amazing politic. not that many of them come around who have that sort of connection with people. >> and i went to a lot of his events for hillary clinton. the way, when he is on, the way he can hold a crowd in the palm of his hand, it's something to see. >> you're like slack jawed. as a practitioner, you're like, how can he ...

Someone compared it to like a mortal kombat finish him moment. where rubio had just clearly -- they'd workshopped that response for weeks. it was watching someone just turn up and just get absolutely destroyed. >> it was so many things were going on there at once. one is just rubio is good at this. rubio is so good in the off the cuff settings. you've got the whole mentor-protege aspect to it. the fact that it is the mentor who is forced to turn his debate and launch the attack on the protege. and that specific line that rubio throws back at him, it's somebody convinced you -- >> that was deva...

Investigation into this case, we were lack jawed over this. have you seen something this bizarre before? >> i'm not sure how it could have happened that kendrick could have ended up the way he did in that rolled up mat. you would think it would give pause to law enforcement. this is so unusual that a young man that age or that size could fit into that small of a hole. and then what we see is what seems to be, at least, less of an investigation that seems to have happened. >> and not only that, there seems to be scattered bits of evidence around that crime scene that are misty fieing. and one t...