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You will hear from most republicans. they'll leave out the part about possible harm to the economy or innocent people. but if they're honest about the numbers they will just point out mathematically the numbers don't exist in discretionary spending to try to do this kind of thing. >> right. they don't care about deficits when a republican is in the white house. remember when george w. bush was in the white house, dick cheney said, quote, deficits don't matter. they only care about irresponsible spending when democrats are in the white house. expect them to run up the numbers. call what they ca...

The senate, so it doesn't require a lot of defections for them to just get slam dunked on all of these things and the president's political capital is rapidly depleting. >> but nick, i remember a presidential candidate running against the national debt and running against the deficit that adds to the national debt and his name was donald trump. >> well, you know, politicians sometimes aren't consistent -- >> really? >> happens sometimes. george w. bush ran on getting rid of debt, not spending too much, and he did, of course. >> in fairness, the george w. bush, as a presidential campa n campaig...

On it. this is a revival for working-class people when he gets on the stump. he feeds off crowds. let's him speak directly to the american people and do it without the media changing the narrative. right on message. down the street from my house. slam dunked it in south carolina and these people love him. >> paris, trump is scheduled to hold a campaign rally in florida tomorrow. is this the start of his re-election campaign? >> i mean, listen every politician always thinking about their re-election. i think what this is is a way for the president go directly to the people -- >> but one month? ...

In these countries waiting to board aircraft and that's why whiwe had lawyers in some of these foreign countries taking passengers to the airport every day trying to board planes in compliance with federal court orders and there's no information in the foreign airports that they're allowed to board planes. >> and remember sean spicer was saying there are only 109 people affected by this. it's not clear whether it's so,000 or 100,000, but there's a tremendous number of people that are affected by these decisions. the sweeping nature of this order is very striking. you know, the judge is not lea...

Thousands of miles around the globe but i know flying is an activity. not an accomplishment. >> back in the book segment tonight let's wrap up our debate coverage. so mary catherine who won the debate? >> i would say carly fiorina makes answering that question easy. she did very well. i didn't have issues you had with her tone. i thought she was commanding and authoritative. >> i just thought she looked teed off. >> they're all well advised to throw in a joke every now and then. >> you smile every once in a while. >> who won? >> i think fiorina. >> you're all pack animals. >> no. >> that is no...