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In charlotte a couple of yeeshs ago. it's still not resolved. we're moving in every form and fashion to complete the task of eradicating these symbols of hatred and division. now, as to slave holders, to say the issue of slave holders. >> tucker: one thing, just so you know, i'm not even arguing with you, just one of the reasons this hasn't been resolved the public is not for doing this. only a small minority, only about a quarter of the people polled yesterday in the united states thought that these monday uments should come down. over 60% said they should remain as historical remnants of an ...

>> i just don't buy the argument there is a slippery slope. yes, i understand that other slave holding presidents were not perfect men and i don't celebrate their imperfections. but i do understand there is a huge difference. a difference between people who did bad things or did things that even were considered not good under today's circumstances that may have been acceptable to some people in those circumstances. there is a huge difference between that and taking up arms against the united states of america. i don't celebrate anybody who was a slave holders, but i do think that american pres...

Fabric. so i totally agree with the president on this one. >> keith, what do you say? >> i don't even know where to begin. i think donald trump's remarks today, his tweets, were completely inappropriate, beneath the dignity of the office that he holds. no president of the united states should be celebrating men who took up arms against the united states of america. what differentiates robert e. lee and other leaders like stonewall jackson and jefferson davis from george washington and from thomas jefferson, who were also slave holders, is that robert e. lee and jefferson davis and the confeder...

So you've given up on the idea of representative government? >> no, i haven't given up on anything. >> tucker: yes, you have. >> what i'm saying, i understand that some people who champion social justice get it before the main society gets it. just as some people in the republican party were slow to get their president is disfunctional. >> tucker: all right. let's get back to the question of slave holders, though. this is meaningful. you make a defensible point out civil war question. but what bothers me about the idea that all slave holders need to be erased from american history. >> i think ...

Country. >> the combination, there's no country on the planet no, society, that would honor those. people with credentials like that. >> tucker: except ours, it was a civil war. i agree with your definition. they were traitors to america. then they came back into america. they reintegrated to america. and then it came back, thank god they did. but it was a civil war, it wasn't like we were invaded. it's more complicated. here's the question. does your view of this apply to all slave holders or just civil war figures? >> it's not just civil war figures. but civil wor confederate heros and leade...