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Dominic and rena shaw. pete, for harriet tubman to replace andrew jackson who was a slave owner and a defender of that on the $20 bill was very much a breakthrough that the obamauncing it on the 100th anniversary which is not now with mnuchin set the clock. it set it till where after trump has left office. is this a real signal of their continuation of going away from anything black or obama or is this really about security, in your opinion? >> it's definitely not about security. they can't get anything done at all. this is the poke an eye in president obama. it's obviously discrimination. it'...

Sexist. it foolishness like that. it's another piece of meat to the base that says we're not putting a black person on the $20 bill and i'm incensed about it. >> the blatant thing is you're talking about a black woman abolitionist that is going to replace a slave owner, who was one that fought against many of the things that his immediate predecessor, abe lincoln, stood for, and you're going to delay it, and that only after some very skillful questioning by a member of congress. >> absolutely. i'm not kidding. i think there's more of a chance he'd put david duke on the $20 bill before harriet ...

Steve mnuchin, surprised many when he said this before congress. watch. >> the $20 bill will now come out till 2028. the $10 and $5 will come out with new features beforehand. >> why the change of heart? back with me to discuss, sophia nelson, daily best columnist dean obeidallah, and national action network vice president and general counsel, michael hardy. let me go to you first, sophia. here was something that was already decided, already done, and this president, who, by the way, has praised andrew jackson a slave owner, a president, his treasury secretary now says, well, this new bill wit...

>>, you know, reverend al, in my piece this week i write about this issue of harriet tubman and the $20 bill. and i state very clearly that the republican party never misses an opportunity to blow an opportunity to expand its base. this was a no-brainer here. this was something president trump could have just let go through and he could have taken a victory lap for it because he implemented what president obama's administration already put forward. but instead, mr. birther, mr. fine people on both sides, did you really expect him to put a black woman on the $20 bill? no, he wasn't going to do ...

Anymore. >> both whom were allied and stood with harriet tubman. >> that's exactly right. again, rev, you know, one of the things you want to do is to do something that really honors the work of the as i ever war to preserve this nation. and harriet tubman really is the essence of that and the direct opposite to the fight that jackson represented in not only bag slave owner, but the trail of tears and other things that he did with regard to the native population. >> this is outright blowing the horn? >> there's no subtlety with him. as sophia talked about from charlottesville through saying pe...