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Radical islamists and jihadism. there is a scarce terrorist attack, it doesn't work back to some british university or neighborhood in the u.k. it was exactly this problem, you had children of you know from fairly well educated bougios backgrounds, one went to one of the most finishing schools or secondary schools in the country. this is a problem. children who have access remotely through the internet, watching the sermons, you can live stream isis clerics, friday prayers an sermons on a platform called zela on your mobile phone. it's like having it muched into your sitting in a mosque in raq...

And how terrorizing the west helps isis to get their caliphate. they say that's what they want. >> reporter: well, they have several goals. few look at their propaganda, abu bakr al baghdadi said a couple months ago, if god wills it, one day we will be in rome. the black flag enenveloped the entire world. do they believe they will have advancing columns march on washington, d.c. or london or paris? >> no. the second best thing for them is to do this. to discombobulate, to traumatize and terrorize. and in so doing, they are trying to manipulate western politics. they want, the very debate we ar...