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Institutions will save us. there's an election. and they're all getting behind him including nikki haley. they're saying don't worry, the checks will hold, the institutions will save us. but in our parable the people are the sovereigns and if we don't do it, if we don't use these institutions no inanimate institution is coming along to save us. the founders gave us canoes, motor boats and helicopters and if we don't use them we're doomed. >> well, i love that. and i think the helicopter with the ladder was the 2020 election. and the midterm before and after it, right? they didn't -- to your po...

A grafter in the sense you now try to write, what, every day? i put office hours in. do you? i don't always come up with million dollar goods, but, you know, it's what i do, so i do it. what better thing would i be doing? that is one way in which... just tell me if this sounds ridiculous, but one way in which i see you as quite a small—c conservative sort of guy. you're committed to hard work, earning your money, and also, when you reflect on, for example, as we've already discussed, the way you were educated, the very traditional way... 0h, old—school. michael gove style! yeah. it seems t...

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A very fair point. but nonetheless, what liz truss decided to do, along with her then chancellor, kwasi kwarteng, was go for growth — go for growth by slashing taxes, all sorts of different taxes, at a time when, as i say, the national debt was rising and the deficit was also rising. now, most economists, if that had come from a labour government or a labour party, would have said that is the most irresponsible sort of economic policymaking! but it seems you and a bunch of other — i'm saying small—c conservative economists — appeared to think that was the right thing to do. 0k. there's...