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The shooter may have left the building. it's not clear if that is the case. i'm looking at the police cars are leaving and others are arriving. it's a developing situation. i'm joined here by lisa and erin who were on their way into nordstrom when this incident happened. what did you see and hear? >> we heard a few shots. we weren't sure what it was at first. everybody started running and we thought it was a joke. and the security started yelling. >> you are going in and seeing people running out. what are you thinking? >> i didn't know what was going on. i thought it was a joke at first. it w...

Best case scenario. when a gun goes off in the cockpit, that's extremely dangerous to the whole airplane. so creating more weapons in a volatile environment already, i personally wouldn't feel safer. i would feel even less safe. but i think there are people who are going to differ who think you should arm all mall cops and all movie theater ushers and teachers and everything. >> two different schools of thought. >> exactly. >> tiffany hawk, thank you so much. >> thank you. coming up, two skydiving planes collide. amazingly, everyone onboard survived. i'll speak with one sky diver who nearly ...

>>neil: what about the mall cops, you are for remain aing them, try? >>guest: that is the irony. the security guard at the mall is ineffective. the situation like this with an active shooter, in i civilian is more effective than the guard. he is only this to observe, deter, and report. you cannot use deadly force. you have to have armed guards if every scenario today. you must. not just power plans or banks, there are shootings at theaters, at churches, at commercial properties, at malls. tell the parents of the 15 year old with a bullet that it is potential liability. arm them. get the experi...