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Sorts of active shooting situations, i know that the most recent incident that comes to mind, you know, involving a similar setting, strip mall, businesses, remember it was chattanooga, tennessee, that that recruitment center back in july. i'm just curious, in terms of police preparation in the wake of that shooting, what's changed? >> well, i do remember the incident in chattanooga. usually what happens is not only does this active shooter training involve law enforcement, but it also involves mall security. it involves the private sector. it also gets involved in this training to make sure t...

That we focus on, we believe that the most important piece of technology is the brain, meaning a human being, properly trained security agent, is the only piece of technology that can actually react to a threat. so you can get a lot farther with training and using the natural mechanics of body language to be able to interpret a threat. in israel what we found is the body language of a murderer is the same before they commit the act much murder as it is after they commit the act of murder. so they really invest money in training. security screeners of el al would be fbi agents. best way for me ...

The store at the time or directly outside that saw this directly and what you may learn from them? >> i don't have a good feel for that. it's a fairly small store and contained -- there are a number of witnesses we're talking to. that's all the information i have for that. >> do you know if he has a criminal record? >> i don't know that he does. >> do you know how many people -- >> -- measures taken in light of the shooting? were there any additional security measures taken? >> we will be here, as we have been, until this incident is resolved and we can reopen the mall. once the mall reopens, ...

Court as that point in time. >> are you there? >> yes. >> you faded out for a moment. we have been pointing out this is saturday and there are shoppers there. as far, you heard mark fuhrman a moment ago offering concerns about in some malls security personnel there don't wear guns. >> well, but you know, what we're seeing is more training for mall security and where the mall security is now carrying guns. there is a lot of malls now that are arming their mall security. not everyone is armed, not all the guards are armed, but a certain number. plus, we are just getting the idea that there may h...

Near gun and ammunition, but the i.d. is unknown at this point. what does it tell you? >> they may, we can only speculate, they may have the shooter. but they don't know if it's a shooter or shooters. so what they are trying to do is properly identify not only the shooting victims but they are trying to definitely make a determination whether they have the shooter or the shooters in custody or under control. >> we were talking about the fact that earlier, today, the mall security, the officers hired specifically to keep watch inside the mall are better trained and better i quipped to handle th...