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>> they're a state sponsor of terrorists. >> don't worry. they were taken off in 2012 when hillary clinton became secretary of state. >> i'm not sure they should have been taken off. the fact that they oppose the islamic republic of iran, i understand there's lots about what this government is doing that ought to give americans pause but there's right ways and wrong ways of opposing government. >> giuliani was paid $25,000 to $40,000 to speak to this terror group. a number of high profile former u.s. officials have spoken including john bolton, which is interesting. the treasury department lau...

Gets it. i just wonder, iphones, you know, they are assembled in china. what are they doing to make sure the chinese government isn't doing this? >> it's just an add-on feature. >> it's bad. >> if they have my text messages, i'm out of here. >> let's talk about paranoia. i have had washington people tell me in the defense industry that there's nothing -- >> forget it. >> it's an open book. >> other governments listen, hear, texts. >> doesn't it make sense? >> my father won't talk on the phone about anything. he won't -- he is incredibly -- he's been for about five years very sort of militant w...

Author of "a world in disarray." look forward to reading that. and on capitol hill, political reporter for "the washington post" and msnbc political analyst, robert costa. >> let's underline it quickly. you had breaxit. the german elections. a lot of things happening. and so of people rising all over the place. it's not quite 1848, but it's going to be a year that people will be circling. >> the next thing will probably be in italy. december 4th you have the vote with the prime minister of italy put his government's future on the line about constitutional reform there. it's almost like the bre...

But it is possible that criticism of these people and their records if you're steve bannon looking at this saying my gosh, the mainstream doesn't like these people, it's conceivable that that makes them even more favorites for these jobs. >> i don't think so. not terror watch list. not when you make money from terror groups. and again, he got elected running against crooked hillary. he is not going to pick a guy that people can call crooked rudy because they've got right now investigations going on. they've got probes going on according to what we just read. help me out, richard. let's talk ab...

>> i have to say that jared for people that know him, he's conservative with a small c. let's keep this in the middle of the road as much as possible. again, he's -- every experience i've had with him, mark halperin, i know you have to, he's a leveling wind in there. >> and he's going to be an adviser to donald trump from outside. that's just a given. the question is how does that get handled? all presidents have outside advisers. jared doesn't have experience at this level but he didn't have experience at the campaign either and performed well there. he's also a relative. i thinthey need to b...