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Tossed. the appeal that they would put forward would, among other things, try to focus on attacking the fairness of the judge i just mentioned who steered the trial through political and legal emine fields as the times reports and thus that approach to trying to get the whole thing tossed looks like an uphill battle to experts. take one lawyer who actually screens cases the for appeals court, this exact situation, saying the case has none of the red flags for reversal on appeal. the judge's demean nor was, quote, flawless. now, even convicted felons have rights. this sentencing affords, for ex...

Obstructed an investigation. the decision is, well, to i not do it because it's martha stewart? that's wrong. >> yeah. and you knew it could upset snoop. >> well, snoop, i don't know that they had a really close relationship back then. >> wow. spoken like a lawyer. we have to really look at it. yeah, they had a business relationship. i know what you mean, though, all jokes aside that when you're a prosecutor, you're exercising unitary power in a way that's different than most of the government. people criticize congress, but it's all a blend and a mix. this d.a. bragg, like when you had that j...

Screen. guilty. count 28, guilty. those are the first 28 counts as read by the jury. count 29, guilty. count 30, guilty. count 31, guilty. count 32, guilty. count 33 and 34, guilty. that is donald j. trump, defendant in new york versus donald trump found guilty on all 34 felony counts. that is the verdict here in this case. >> rachel? >> listen, it's a unanimous jury verdict, unanimous on all counts. this is a definitive and, you know -- this is an irreducible verdict. he can appeal. i'm sure he will appeal. but this is everything that the prosecution asked for. >> everything they asked for an...

Courts process that would keep him out of ha jail cell sooner or later, then yes, you can bet the appeal after the sentencing will be a huge deal in our public and legal life for months to come. we turn now to someone who knows all about appeals, neal katyal, the former acting solicitor general for the obama sxhrgs msnbc legal analyst. welcome back. your thoughts on all the above. >> yeah, so i think when you think about the question of what's going to happen to trump on sentencing, there's two pieces of it. one is what's the judge going to sentence. and the second is how does whatever sen sen...

Manhattan case involving bragg and the hush payments is the weakest criminal case i've ever seen in 60 years of practicing and teaching criminal law. >> well, look, i think it's easy for people to stand outside and criticize. i didn't think an awful lot of the case until i can tell you, man, i thought it was a good case and i had trust in alvin bragg to bring it. but what changed me is when david pecker testified. it brought it all into focus for me and talked about not just how i think the substantively there was a lot there for them to move on, but how compelling it was and how important it ...