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Home or go out there into the society. but i definitely think that once we get the rapid tests and improve the sensitivity, it will change the whole course of the pandemic. but remember, it's all about layering. it's about testing, ventilation, wearing the right kind of mask. i'm really huge on how every american should be wearing an n-95 and these masks are readily available. these are the masks that i wear and other health care workers wear. really protects you against the virus. >> yeah. we know what kind of mask you're wearing is so important. people were surprised when the cdc issued that...

>> that's not fair, that's not right and it would be a problem for airlines as well. there is not a way to track that right now. this is not something that's implemented tomorrow and actually worked and making air travels more seamless. what we know is demands came back when people started getting vaccinated and mask policies were in place. people had confidence in that. we know mandating vaccines and getting vandeccines out to peop is going to make our work space more safe and get us through this pandemic and experience the freedom we had before this pandemic. we would be focused in every way...

Piggy-back on that. these are guidance for people who want to do the right thing. now it seems like it's getting a wee bit more complicated. >> oh, i agree with you. many people don't like to wear a mask and they have their mask below their nose and still using cloth masks and it's going to legitimate them, five days and i am done. they're not going to pay attention to. yeah, i am nervous about that. i understand the rational. most people are not infectious given the short incubation time. we need a lot of people back at work, we can't have the 10% not working at hospitals and airlines. safety...

The brown's university. to reduce the isolation given the spread of this disease, why in your expert opinion does it make sense? >> first of all, thank you for having me back, michael. >> here is why. first, we know most people who are contagious are contagious in those first five days. it does not capture everybody, most people gets in those five days. second is we know a lot of people find the ten days isolation burden enough, i am hoping this new policies does two things. you only need to isolate five days, that improves the incentive for people to get tested and isolate. the policies are p...

Indoors and in public and obviously not at home. when i don't know other people's vaccine status, i wear a mask. what do i do? i think masks in two contexts. if it's something i am going to pop into a grocery store for five minutes and not super crowded, goods surgical mask, if they fit reasonably well is good. if i am going to be in a longer period of time, i was at the boston pop holiday concert for an hour and a half, everybody was wearing a mask and it was vaccines only. wore a high quality mask, n-95. if you are not sure which one to get, there is great organization called great 95. they'...