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Implication, then you talk about the states that this is in. 20% of this millions of population are in states like texas and florida. >> louisiana. >> big states in which if you've got huge numbers of people without care, where are they going to go? they're going to go to our emergency rooms, to free clinics, but we don't have as many as we used to. >> mod cade is something familiar to people, so expanding that is different than other pars of the aca. saying let's to more of what you know. >> and what works. >> medicare was built within the social security system in 1965. that was the whole ar...

Of ill now. >> good to be with you. >> have we learned any lessons, has washington learned any lessons? have the republicans gotten out of this deep, dark cave and realizing people are kind of watching what we're doing? >> it's not just the rest of the world. i think most americans, as you pointed out, ed, in the polls most people want to have health care, they want obama care, they don't want it to be repealed, they want it to be fixed. most people are against cuts in medicare and social security and the s.n.a.p. program, the old food stamp program. i think that republicans really i hope lear...

America. we heard, we have all this money for stadiums and tax cuts for the rich, we have enough money f for meals. and we can cut these cuts in the s.n.a.p. program. half those benefits go to children. whatever they're describing it as, the truth is, it's a massive cut to working families and kids. >> hold for me one moment. we're going to stay on this issue. but you have a student back there with you. >> i do. i have tamara has a fantastic question. >> what do you do if someone in your school is going hungry but they don't tell anybody and you want to help them zplp do you have a response to...

Government is and what the workers who work for the federal government do i've ever heard. that is an insult to anyone in public service and it certainly insults the american people. i'm just astounded. and i would hope that's a minority view on the republican side of the aisle. >> but it is part of, i mean, part of the broader context of this whole shutdown, of course, is the idea that coming from the right, the federal government is bloated, that it needs to be cut, that it actually is kind of a drain on americans' liberty and freedom, and actually maybe people will like having the federal g...

I'm just astounded. and i would hope that's a minority view on the republican side of the aisle. >> but it is part of, i mean, part of the broader context of this whole shutdown, of course, is the idea that coming from the right, the federal government is bloated, that it needs to be cut, that it actually is kind of a drain on americans' liberty and freedom, and actually maybe people will like having the federal government shut down. >> well, i guess they're betting on that. but this is a cut the government at any price, you know, the ryan budget cut the federal budget by $5 trillion over ten ...