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Ridiculous to beg people to get on food stamps and tell me what you are in the enemy and home that you own and car. sign up for government benefits. >> yeah, it is horrible when you think about the original intent of the 1964 food stamp act. we have gotten so far away from it. in 2002, we spent 20.6 billion a year today in 2012, we are spening 75.8 billion on food stamps and look at the farm bill debated in the 70. 80 percent of that farm bill is food statches it is a big business industry and used it in convenience foregas stations and just yesterday at a 7-11 taking the snap program or ebt c...

And families with no income. but this seems to be ridiculous to beg people to get on food stamps and tell me what you are in the enemy and home that you own and car. sign up for government benefits. >> yeah, it is horrible when you think about the original intent of the 1964 food stamp act. we have gotten so far away from it. in 2002, we spent 20.6 billion a year today in 2012, we are spening 75.8 billion on food stamps and look at the farm bill debated in the 70. 80 percent of that farm bill is food statches it is a big business industry and used it in convenience foregas stations and just ye...

And families with no income. but this seems to be ridiculous to beg people to get on food stamps and tell me what you are in the enemy and home that you own and car. sign up for government benefits. >> yeah, it is horrible when you think about the original intent of the 1964 food stamp act. we have gotten so far away from it. in 2002, we spent 20.6 billion a year today in 2012, we are spening 75.8 billion on food stamps and look at the farm bill debated in the 70. 80 percent of that farm bill is food statches it is a big business industry and used it in convenience foregas stations and just ye...

Apparently, they were good at recruiting people at -- and letting them know that, in fact, you do qualify for food stamps. apparently, some people don't realize that they do. and is it the job, then, of the federal government to reach out to these people and make sure they know that they can receive these government benefits? >> and i think it even goes further than this because this particular area of the country in north carolina has, well, even the mountains of the carolinas and through that area has something they locally call mountain pride which is we're going to do it ourselves. even if...

Why not use it as teachable moment so they can make healthy choices and learn to make smarter choices down the road? we'll all win. >> heather: so far lawmakers in several states actually have unsuccessfully pushed bills to make soda, chips, candy ineligible to purchase for food stamps. it's called the supplemental assistance program. and program that is administered by the u.s. department of agriculture that could be modified as part of new farm bill that is going through congress? >> we find that this snap program does assist people but not assist the family farmer. it assists sugar that mak...