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Biceps for a tank top anymore, but how about a t shirt? >> you can do a long sleeve t shirt same with willie. >> she did. >> kasie, al franken appears to be at this point pushing back a little bit. we haven't heard much from him. >> we haven't. it took him over ten days to do this. the allegations surfaced some time ago. i think behind the scenes the thinking of both the franken team and also other democrats on capitol hill and the reason you hear the focus on the ethics investigation is because quite frankly people are waiting for the other shoe to drop. in most of the other cases where you'v...

Concerning, but i'm sure that is a conclusion the special counsel will work towards to try to understand the intention. >> snowballing effect that happens, the intention of the president of the united states to try to stop or distract the investigation, you find additional shoes dropping. additional doors opening. and expansion of an investigation that likely would have been quite narrowly tailored. >> reporter: also emernlgs abouting from comey's closed door meeting with senators, the possibility that attorney general jeff sessions might have had a third undisclosed meeting with russian ambas...

Feel that he has to depose the president. >> reporter: mueller now has comey's detailed memos of his conversations with trump. testifying before congress thursday, comey suggested that the president may now be a target of the investigation. >> i don't think it's for me to say whether the conversation hi with the president was an effort to obstruct are. i took it as a very disturbing thing, very concerning, but that's a conclusion i'm sure the special counsel will work towards to try and understand what the intention was there and whether that's an offense. >> the snowballing effect that happen...

I take them for our movement so that we can have our country back. >> joining me is nbc's katy tur. she's in philadelphia. susan page is here along with former chair of the republican national committee and msnbc political analyst michael steele. katy tur, how does this ring with you having covered him all these months? you must have some reaction when you hear these stories pouring out every couple of hours. >> reporter: i can't verify any of these claims. what i will say is we are seeing a snowballing effect with more and more women coming out and saying they feel more comfortable now tellin...

Pouring out almost every hour. >> i can't verify any of these claims. what i will say, is we are seeing a snowballing effect with more and more women coming out saying they feel more comfortable now telling their story. they're saying that the 2005 audio leak enabled them -- or first girded them to do so. and then when donald trump denied touching anybody, denied, you know, acting on any of those brags, during the debate, they felt like they needed to come out in order to, essentially, protect the country. they felt like it was their duty, their civic duty, to come out and lettskand alert the ...