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And i think the danger in all of this is very early in the process bill barr defined the mueller report inaccurately and he didn't give proper weight to some of the very serious conclusions that report reached, specifically around obstruction of justice. there's no doubt anyone reading that, and many law enforcement officials have, but that members of that administration engaged in obstruction of justice. what the democrats want to do with that is where the tension is right now, but what they haven't done is explain to the american public what went off the rails here and why it matters. and th...

>> that's right. >> thus far. >> giving air cover. >> giving him air cover. and the danger in all of this is very early in the process bill barr defined the mueller report inaccurately and he didn't give proper weight to some of the very serious conclusions that report reached, specifically around obstruction of justice. there's no doubt anybody reading that, and many law enforcement officials have, but that members of that administration engaged in obstruction of justice. what the democrats want to do with that is where the attention is right now, but what they haven't done is explain to the ...

>> so eugene, tonight there's absolutely no doubt that ted cruz is a liar, but you now have to choose which -- when was he lying? was he lying when he said donald trump was amoral or was he lying tonight when he appeared with donald trump and praised donald trump? >> right, and that's the question that attorneys love to ask in cross-examination. when were you lying? >> because we'll take either one. >> were you lying back then or both? i mean this relationship is just so phony and so ridiculous that everyone sees through it. now, they might still vote for him for whatever reasons, they agree w...

Say let's move past this trump era where we're pitting people against each other and standing on each other's shoulders as opposed to fighting one another. i think that's what it's going to take to get past trump is someone who paints a bigger picture of america where everyone can see themselves, and we're not having for one person to succeed another person has to fail. that's what we've got to push behind -- beyond. >> so eugene, tonight there's absolutely no doubt that ted cruz is a liar, but you now have to choose which -- when was he lying? was he lying when he said donald trump was amoral...

On that later in our broadcast. so eugene, but i wanted to talk about the president's tweets. i guess it was oh, yesterday that have been almost normalize into the conversation with the pace of news about jeff sessions' role. he incorrectly talked about obama era investigations into two prominent republican members of congress. and was indicating that jeff sessions allowed this to happen. >> right, and so in a normal time, in a normal presidency, any other presidency, any other time, this would be a huge multidalt story. this would be outrageous that the president of the united states very cle...