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Who saw this coming? >> ron johnson is trying to speak up for small businesses. the middleclass has really been left out. he's being motivated by a specific provision. and i think this is not a no vote. this is a negotiating assistance. it those folks too often get lost in the shuffle. >> small businesses are called pass throughs and you wind up being almost double taxed. one at the business level. they have to pay it as income. that's been there a long time. they are not just the manufacturing but the job engine of this particular economy. >> that's right. >> so johnson is important if he sta...

And joining me now, former nypd detective, tom verny, and vann jones. tom, you're with me. let me start with you. so johnson's version of the story. he says he wasn't intoxicated. he says he didn't try to present a fake i.d. we should note he's a few months shy of his 21st birthday. given that we don't know exactly what happened okay? but no matter what happened does it justify throwing a kid to the ground and having his face be utterly covered in blood? can anything in this situation justify that sort of force? >> well it all depends on what happened before the video that we saw. it doesn't s...

Former roommate, bob johnson. >> someone who came forward and claimed that their roommate at that time in '86, johnson, had come home bloodied and said that he had killed somebody. >> johnson's mugshot looked remarkably like the composite drawing of the suspect. he didn't fit the fbi profile, but his background made him a likely suspect. >> his ex-wife told the investigators that mr. johnson had a significant drug problem, and he was conducting those burglaries to help support that habit. >> janet haynes identified johnson in a photo lineup. >> so i'm sure at that point, edmond investigators c...

Ultimately fair housing in' 68. that's for johnson. then there was so many people who had come to washington, when i went to work for robert kennedy in the senate, and we would need to find out something or get some help from the executive branch, there were people all over the executive branch who had come to washington to work with jfk and who were really interested in being helpful to rfk. sometimes they had to do it surreptitiously because the divisions between lyndon johnson and rfk were already quite visible. >> bob, last question to you. obviously, teddy really was the other one. he too...

Recover, he should change his positions on the issues. >> so johnson has been anti-obama, scott walker also has been anti-obama care, big-time. he's up for re-election in 2014 and holds just a two-point lead against his democratic challenger, mary burke. now, i know a little bit about your state. i've spent a little bit of time in wisconsin, but i don't know mary burke. how does she get within two points in the first polling? ruth? >> i know mary burke. i've spent a lot of time about her. a lot of wisconsinites don't know her. i think what the poll numbers show not so much the strength of mary...