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Document behind, we have to squeeze it out of these people. it's always disclosure. jared is just the classic case who forgets to tell you about his latest meeting with the russians. >> exactly. when the president is making on average 5.5 misleading claims a day, how can anyone keep up with those and add their own lies in that speaks to why they don't remember or it's easier to say i don't recall that happening, because otherwise they're implicating themselves and they have to keep up with what the president is saying, which is often false and misleading. i think the latest news about mueller,...

Way to these charges with anything other than concern if you're in the trump camp. you know, if i was advising the president, i would advice him not to say anything about this. but certainly i think he's trying to engage in some miss direction or trying to object few skate and trying to draw attention away from this. but look, what we have here is, you know, in terms of the papadopoulos charging document, you have somebody who has agreed to cooperate with robert mueller, somebody who has agreed to testify, agreed to, you know, potentially he has recorded conversations. you know, he is -- if yo...

>> well, no question about that, chris. and what i think will happen is mueller is going to be putting pressure. he has already put pressure on papadopoulos. so what they've already been doing, one thing we learned today, chris, is that papadopoulos was arrested back in july. this deal was consummated on october 5th. so mueller is running a pretty tight ship. and he has been putting the screws on papadopoulos for months now, getting papadopoulos to cooperate against others. i would imagine now the next target is going to be whether it's clovis or someone else who is directly dealing with papad...

About the length and the expense of the investigations. both mueller and the congressional investigations and any indication about mueller's record that those complaints influenced the decision in the timing of what we're seeing in cnn's reporting of the first charges comingi. >> we no from the beginning of the investigation, not only from congressional but muellers, that time is of the essence. mu mueller and members of congress know that an answer needs to come relatively quickly because of how drawn out this has been because of the impact that it has on not only the white house but congress...

Obviously, but, you know, it just gets to a point where one thing after another after another, you know -- >> it adds it adds it adds. >> where you think there's smoke you think there's fire. the lawyer that met with trump junior claims she was independent. she was doing it on her own. nobody believes that. she even -- we even have a picture of her sitting in the audience at a foreign affairs committee meeting that we held. so she was there at the behest of the russians. she has close ties to putin and the kremlin. >> and wikileaks, the trump campaign not denying it and no one in leadership sa...