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Presidents have to testify when they're subpoenaed. >> i put out on twitter about questions, and one of the biggest questions was about nikki haley. let's look to an interview that nikki haley did today that part of the interview was provoked by something you said last week. let's listen to this. >> he told the comedian and television host bill maher that he's president sure that the president is having an affair and close readers of his book would be able to figure out who the president is having an affair with. so wolff writes in the book, quote, that the president had been spending an amoun...

Not about conflict of interest or supervising the justice department, it's about stopping the investigation. that would be powerful evidence of his intent, this is not someone who acts like an ininnocent person, lawrence. that's the most important thing that comes out of the picture that wolff paints. >> i was struck by that term wallpaper that michael wolff used. it tells us a lot. if you ever listened to the wiretaps of mafia headquarters in new york or boston or different places, the wallpaper was we need to get rid of that guy, and at some point that guy would be gotten rid of with or with...

Jury. it might be brought to congress and in an impeachment proceeding that's one of the things for congress left to decide. >> donald trump may be crazy, but he's not legally insane. the standard on that is very high. i think mr. wolff's legal analysis is kind of back wards, all due respect. and jill pointed out there are specific acts of obstruction. he wasn't spouting off when he did fire james comey, when he instructed a false statement be produced by don junior about that trump tower meeting. so there are a lot of specific acts. and what mr. wolff calls the wallpaper i think is powerful e...

Prosecutor is going to have to get inside the president's head to figure out what his actual intent was in those statements. what was your reaction to that? >> i think intent was one of the more interesting parts of that interview. he also said that the president likes to say, you're fired, and he does it all the time. he apparently learned his lesson on "the apprentice" all too well. as far as intent it's tricky for a lawyer to be able to prove intent. but in this case there are so many acts in furtherance that a jury can infer intent. and the other problem is if he didn't intent the corrupt ...

Jury can infer intent. and the other problem is if he didn't intent the corrupt firing of mueller and, let's face it, of comey, then if wolff is correct, he sounds like the alternative is the man is crazy. if he's crazy and incompetent and stupid, which are the words michael wolff used then we have to look at the 25th amendment and congress has to stand up and say the man is incompetent. those seem to be the fwo choices he was saying, it was hard to choose intent because he's crazy. that leads up from impeachment possibly to the 25th amendment. possibly it's a lose for trump. >> and the 25th a...