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The latest missile test that went up just before 5:30 in the morning from the city of kusong. it traveled more than 400 miles before dropping into the sea of japan. joining me now is christopher hill, former ambassador to iraq and south korea and also msnbc diplomacy expert. welcome to you, sir. this one traveled more than 400 miles and missile experts are saying that is definitely far enough to reach some u.s. military bases on guam. how urgent is this situation right now? >> well, this situation has been urgent for some time. clearly they are testing a whole new generation of missiles, missi...

Overnight. i think there's a lot of bluster going on on both sides in this debate. they're a long way from the deliverable icbm with a nuclear war head. we have time to build up our ballistic missile defense, to build a wall around north korea with our allies, to pressure the north korean leadership, you know, to change their ways. we have time to do this. this is not the time to panic about this. >> all right. everyone keeps saying we don't have to worry about this because they're so far offer. but is there technology they can buy from rogue nations that greatly advances that time line? >> ye...

Year after year of security council resolutions. there have been periods when north korea moved back from the brink as far as the u.s. was concerned. as you were discussing with hans before we went to the session there, the intelligence on north korea is so opaque. it is the hardest intelligence target probably in the world of a major power and a nuclear power at that. their missiles are mobile launched, hard to target and hard to figure out when they are about to launch. they have been moving to solid state nuclear -- rather solid state missile technology which means that they don't need to t...

Can roll out the solid fuel missiles quickly and given the fact that this u.s. nuclear submarine will be rolling up in south korea, it would be a day that north korea may want to fire back, so to speak. >> has the north reacted to the expected arrival of the u.s. submarine? >> reporter: they have not specifically commented. there was a state media article out yesterday calling the actions of the united states reckless, referring to the "carl vinson "carrier strike group which is moving toward the peninsula after the detour. north korea continues to say they will stand strong and defend themsel...

Jong-un could order a sixth nuclear test at any moment. as for a missile launch, they can roll out the solid fuel missiles quickly and given the fact that this u.s. nuclear submarine will be rolling up in south korea, it would be a day that north korea may want to fire back, so to speak. >> has the north reacted to the expected arief ed ed arrival of submarine? >> reporter: they have not specifically commented. there was a state media article out yesterday calling the actions of the united states reckless, referring to the "carl vinson" which is moving toward the peninsula after the detour. no...