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>> well, i know this. the impeachment thing is a total hoax. the numbers have swung our way. they don't want to see impeachment, especially in the swing states, they swung away. i have never seen a swing like this. because people realize it was a total hoax. we had a perfect conversation. it was only a conversation. nothing came out of the conversation except good relationship with ukraine. >> he has never seen a swing like this. meanwhile, the president's personal attorney has been in ukraine and hasn't revealed the purpose of that trip. rudy giuliani said he will reveal it, quote, when he's ...

And other than that, does anybody have any questions? >> mr. president -- [ indiscernible ] >> i just know he came back from someplace and he's going to make a report, i think the attorney general and the congress, he's going to give us a lot of good information. i haven't spoken to him about that information. but rudy as you know has been one of the great crime fighters in the last 50 years and he did get back from europe just recently and he has not told me what he's found but i think he wants to go before congress and say -- and also the attorney general and the department of justice. i hea...

Previously been closed. >> thank you. and a professor said in a negative way at school it's like you just released a nuclear bomb in the middle of the institution, and what's going to happen. and maybe i did. maybe i released this bomb to explode all these walls we put around discourse, it flattens our discourse and makes it one-dimensional and let's make these questions, these inquiries three-dimension three-dimensional again because they are. we can't figure out with just words. we have to figure out beyond the words we know and figure it out by hitting our gut in someplace that shocks, mayb...

Through in your life and yet that consistency with faith, the different phases you go through in your life, your living a very full life, aren't you. you grab that gold ring and you run with it. >> it's like living inside a movie. you go back in the day to where i'd have a gun to my head, someplace in some city and the next day be eating with three millionaires. [inaudible] i just remember this actually happened, i was in a very bad place in our city, it was the middle of the night, i got them all back, ended up back in minneapolis. the next day we were with

>> no, i know, he has a big firm that does the work. >> i think he's done work in ukraine for years. it's just absolutely done a lot of -- he's done a lot of work in ukraine over the years. and i think -- i mean, that's what i heard. i might've even read that someplace. >> might've even read that someplace, perhaps in "the times" or "the washington post." [ laughter ] you're on this story as well. that's very much what the focus is at this point is, is that this was a huge business opportunity for the former mayor of new york. >> it's increasingly are now investigating him and his business dea...