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Spartacus moment. he stepped forward anything that happens to corey happens to me. ed: chairman at the committee at the time chuck grassley said these emails are coming out anyway. holding himself out as spartacus i'm throwing down here. i might be admonished might be breaking senate rules if he released emails. chairman of the they are being released anyway. being transparent. you are making a show of this. emily. emily: falls so flat. in that moment, the ripple effect. the only one that was really proud of it obviously was spartacus. ed: senator spartacus. pete: do you know why he thought it...

Allegedly sayoc this week, where does the president fall there? >> look, i think the president has create and contributed to an atmosphere in which this happened. the reality though, is that if you look at what has happened with the actual messaging by sayoc allegedly, it is not really pointed to any particular policy. it is really just kind of the same sort of broad hate-fueled anger that we wonder if the president has really been sort of encouraging it. i personally think, victor, that when you see somebody doing what demagogues do, and we just saw a taste of it from president trump, and eve...

We can get this done quickly. it's just dragged it out and gotten worse and giuliani is getting a lot of attention, which the president never likes somebody doing. >> giuliani started out when he was first named giving those interviews saying two weeks, the timeframe that we'll get this decided on and talking about his personal relationship with mueller, which i can't imagine would go down well with robert mueller, the idea he's influenced by a personal relationship. >> right. there have been a lot of saying the inside part out loud, right? we well aware ty cobb who has worked within the white...

No one's ever heard of these other people, the raskens, the new main lawyers to his team working on his case. he wanted somebody who could make a headline. he also liked the fact he thought giuliani could go on tv. he hoped, i think, to some extent, he would believe what giuliani was saying, we can make this go away. it's just dragged it out and gotten worse and giuliani is getting a lot of attention, which the president never likes somebody doing. >> giuliani started out when he was first named giving those interviews saying two weeks, the timeframe that we'll get this decided on and talking ...

What would you like him to do if you think he would do it? >> i would like him to do what he said he would do when he ran and was inaugurated to bring people together. he should see this as an opportunity. somebody doing what he did like kaepernick, he said this flag enables me to do this, the anthem enables me to do this, it is about freedom of expression instead of what he is doing now. i think he is ill advised if advised at all. sports are always been a great unifier. sports and the arts bring america together. we put our differences aside. let's not have the president of the united states...