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were important to you, but on a day—to—day basis, you were having to deceive and to lie. are you good at that? and protect. she chuckles and i got rather good at it indeed. yes, ican... ican... i can prevaricate with the best of them. let me take you back to the beginning. you've described entering the cia through a side entrance, by which i think you mean that you weren't sort of formally recruited. that's right. you sort of fell into it because you married a guy who, it turned out, just before your wedding, you learned was in the cia. wasn't there a movie or a book? something t...

meanwile the israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu has insisted that his country will press on with its fight against hamas. translation: i want to be clear, the war is ongoing, l it is continuing. we will continue it until we achieve all our objectives. we will eliminate hamas and we ensure that the day after hamas, there will be no factor who will continue educating their children to hate and to eradicate israel, so we will continue eliminating in hamas, in the north, by the way, and in the south, we will continue that effort. our senior international correspondent orla guerin ...

but nevertheless you try, you chuck out a load of people into the sinai desert and you also try to chuck out the people living in the west bank and in eastjerusalem intojordan, which is also very difficult. 0k, supposing you, this is israel, succeed in some measure with this. what next? what happens next? i strongly believe that the only way forward is for us to share the space in equality within a democracy. though she fears gaza being wiped out completely and ultimately the west bank too, a one—state solution is ghada's hope, but the huge number of civilian casualties in gaza won...

pleasure. well, it's great to have you here. what do you think are the qualities you possess that made you a good spy? no—one�*s asked me that before. um... i'm tenacious, i'm a... ..a bit adventurous. that's how i got into it to begin with. and i think the biggest piece of it was hoping that i had done something worth doing, and that it had made a difference. so the values behind the work were important to you, but on a day—to—day basis, you were having to deceive and to lie. are you good at that? and protect. she chuckles and i got rather good at it indeed. yes, ican... ica...

Lots of people love the bbc, doesn't love you back. you learn this, right? so you make your accommodation with it. if you think it's something worth doing, and i did, and there's much about the church that i do love and lot about the people in the church that i loved. and also my day to day experience was always of being affirmed, actually. and david and i managed to find a way in which we could conduct the necessary intimacies of our relationship without subjecting that to this kind of weird forensic process that the church expected. i mean, again, this is difficult territory. i don't want to...