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To me a very foolish response. be quiet. a very foolish response to a problem that needs a solution, but this is not the solution here. please, don't be rude. >> earlier you were talking about -- >> please, don't be rude. >> let him finish his statement. >> be quiet. arming everybody on post and the intended danger in doing that is not a solution to protect the lives of people who serve and sacrifice for us. now you can say what you want to say. >> very quickly, please. john? >> there's a lot of hyperbole that's here. nobody's talking about arming kids, as you were mentioning earlier, or armin...

Otherwise, it's the military police or other guards who are charged with providing that safety and otherwise you are, as the colonel said, sitting ducks if someone decides to go rogue. >> i understand how people worry about arming everybody on board on these bases and a lot of these guys are suffering from ptsd and so on. there are potential issues there and really the notion of not trusting the vast majority of our men and women in uniform to whom we give guns, to not use them on one another raises a lot of questions for folks, pete. >> i think it does. we trust young 18, 19-year-olds to go i...

The situation here on post is all clear. but we are now learning that four individuals were killed, including the gunmen, 14 individuals injured, taken to the hospital in temple where they are being carried for right now. it remains a fluid situation. we expect a full briefing from military brass around 9:15. that's the story here in killeen at ft. hood. now back to you. >> thanks to rudy for that report. you heard that there will be a press conference coming up in about 15 minutes and we'll hear directly from those at ft. hood. you heard the latest numbers have not changed now. in the past ho...

Targets as you are shooting hem. the first shot hit me in the left chest. >> how close to the heart? >> that was the first round so i am guessing it would have to have missed my heart by maybe a centimeter or two. >> it's a miracle. >> yeah. >> you were shot six times. how did you get out of it? >> i was fortunate enough to be able to stand and run. stand and get out. as i was going out the door i -- i saw one of my soldiers on the ground and i knew i couldn't do anything about it drag him out or anything like that without getting hit again. >> just minutes after hasan opened fire two civilian...

Targets as you are shooting hem. the first shot hit me in the left chest. >> how close to the heart? >> that was the first round so i am guessing it would have to have missed my heart by maybe a centimeter or two. >> it's a miracle. >> yeah. >> you were shot six times. how did you get out of it? >> i was fortunate enough to be able to stand and run. stand and get out. as i was going out the door i -- i saw one of my soldiers on the ground and i knew i couldn't do anything about it drag him out or anything like that without getting hit again. >> just minutes after hasan opened fire two civilian...