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They don't want to run in a state like pennsylvania with state like pennsylvania with these tax increases. these tax increases. that's why they want to run -- >> republicans. >> no democrats. that's why they want to run -- >> republicans. >> no democrats. if you're running 2014, you if you're running 2014, you don't want all these hikes on your shoulders. >> with the farmers and ranchers there paying more when it's a million dollars -- >> you know what i have to say about max? he's a careful man. he's been there a long time in a conservative state. you've got to be careful if you're in montana...

And i would have been offended by that. it never came up as a negative. i never saw it anywhere. >> i agree with that. you give credit to where credit's due. they didn't take a shot on him in religion. that wouldn't have worked in this country anyway. and this is better than an inside baseball story. this is inside the dugout story. i'm not getting paid and i love talking about it. >> me too. what did you find as a journalist, what did you find? because you've been watching romney since he was a moderate republican not that long ago. >> 2002. of course he called himself moderate and progressiv...

Your shoulders. >> with the farmers and ranchers there paying more when it's a million dollars -- >> you know what i have to say about max? he's a careful man. he's been there a long time in a conservative state. you've got to be careful if you're in montana. happy new year, i guess. >> happy new year. >> thank you, buddy. coming up, we'll talk about plenty of republicans mitt romney lost the campaign. but the latest reason has come from his son tagg. he says his dad mr. romney just wasn't into being president. are we supposed to believe that? i saw this guy run his butt off for about six ye...

Against his religion. and i would have been ausoffend by that. it never came up as a negative. i never saw it anywhere. >> i agree with that. you give credit to where credit's due. they didn't take a shot on him in religion. that wouldn't have worked in this country anyway. and this is better than an inside baseball story. this is inside the dugout story. i'm not getting paid and i love talking about it. >> me too. what did you find as a journalist, what did you find? because you've been watching romney since he was a moderate republican not that long ago. m. >> 2002. of course he called himse...

He's a careful man. he's been there a long time in a conservative state. you've got to be careful if you're in montana. happy new year, i guess. >> happy new year. >> thank you, buddy. coming up, we'll talk about plenty of republicans mitt romney lost the campaign. but the latest reason has come from his son tagg. he says his dad mr. romney just wasn't into being president. are we supposed to believe that? i saw this guy run his butt off for about six years for president. i don't buy it, but we'll see what the argument is. plus the chuck hagel for secretary of defense bubble has been poppe...