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8501. at the bottom of the java sea. at the moment they don't know if it is one piece. or it is broken up. go now to jeffrey thomas. editor-in-chief of airline ratings.com. he joins us from perth, australia, via skype. this happened quickly, jeffrey. it did. mind you. they had ships in the area. 32 ships in the area. for the last 24, 36 hours. a number of those. have the sonar capability. but they have gone on to a very timely manner. it brings closure to relatives in the circumstance. i think they're going to find that the fuselage is breached. that's whey we have got, six beds on the surface...

>> without a doubt. there was plenty of time to get the life rafts deploy which should have been done. to have a young school child make a phone call to an emergency place before a seasoned captain, that should tell you something right there. the captain was very indecisive. >> is something like this rov going to see any better than a diver? >> it potentially can with the sonar capability. but again the limitation is not only because of lack of light but the amount of silt down there. i applaud the use of this rov because we have to be realistic. we are entering in to a phase that is more reco...

Plenty of time for evacuation or at least for mustering. the ship didn't go down in a matter of minutes. >> without a doubt. there was plenty of time to get the life rafts deploy which should have been done. to have a young school child make a phone call to an emergency place bafr seasoned captain, that should tell you something right there. the captain was very indecisive. >> is something like this rov going to see any better than a diver? >> it potentially can with the sonar capability. but again the limitation is not only because of lack of light but the amount of silt down there. i applaud...

News when they come back. >> the other interesting part of this is that british submarine, of course, it sent going to be successful useful, until they narrow down the search zone. is there a sense that they want to throw it in there and start some sefrmt in a sense of desperation, perhaps? >> i think it is not just a sense of desperation, the fact that window is closing on finding the wreckage. they are bringing in all the possible, in case they are able to find the debris, deploy the scans, and a locator, for the u.s. navy, a submarine drone, that has sonar capability. they are all moving in...

Including the scorpion submarines and my other question to you is, is there any lead so far of the police investigations that's been going on? >> our submarines do not have the ability especially sonar, passive or active and the ships is something that i discussed with my counterparts. for example, secretary hagel on possible deployment, that we do not have it. so the sonar capability and the deep sea surveillance search and rescue is also something that we are asking our friends to assist and that has been a tremendous boost to us, because nobody has actually said no to our request at any sta...