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Isis right now? >> let's go back to this moment. i was not consulted. not consulted by whom. i don't think you would expect president trump who doesn't get down into the weeds of military details to pick up the phone and call him. that is not likely to have happened. he was not consulted by defense secretary james mattis, the chairman of the joint chiefs because that decision by the president also took them by surprise. it was a shock to the pentagon. so this sound byte tells us an awful lot about how surprised the military has been about this decision. and now turning their attention forward,...

Operative monkate. he loves conspiracies, he loves running agents. he is not good at it but he loves that world. this is a guy that used cutouts to engage in the kind of game he always wanted to play. >> he says he is not a conspiracy theorist. he's a conspiracy realist. i saw a sound byte. >> whatever. he says he lives in a world of conspiracy, some of which he created in his own mind. >> the only thing worse than talking about him is not talking about him. >> the circus on showtime this weekend. i want to play an interview. er co-hosting with roger stone. this is in october of 2016. watch th...

I think that is really the politics of this. of course, this man will testify. of course, the president through his tweets about the father-in-law and the wife, those are certainly threatening and one could argue witness intimidation. this guy is going to appear particularly after the buzz feed story. >> what is your take on -- this comes from -- we heard this earlier today from michael cohen's attorney saying that in his view the threats that they perceive coming from donald trump and from rudy giuliani, he says this amounts to witness tampering. i think we have a sound byte. let me play it. ...

Kansas? >> i'm trying to make sure i'm going what president trump want mess to do to keep america safe. >> is mitch mcconnell trying to change your mind about that? he's considered a possibility to run for that seat. >> i spoke to senator mcconnell once. et had asked if i'd think about it. >> he might be reracking that sound byte. >> it's the nondenial denial. i'm not going to address it. >> as the 2020 race heats up, health care is expected to be one of the big issues for presidential contenders. a new survey from the keizer family foundation shows 56% of americans. so if the plan eliminates ...

Television. what about manu's reporting on this house oversight subpoena? >> let me go back one second to say that sound byte that we just heard to me, i would want to look into that because the words of the statute of witness intimidation are hinder, delay, prevent testimony. when you say if you testify, your father-in-law could be in jeopardy, that seems to me hindered delay or prevent testimony. as to your question, manu is right that the committee can subpoena cohen. if he hasn't yet gone b to prison, it's a simpler proposition. people come in from prisons to testify all the time in trials...