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Walk them through the desert to try to make it across the border. i think it's an indictment of american policy policy that does relate to security. not enough is being sdon to try and improve the security of the countries where these folks are coming from. even a guy like john kelly, a real enemy to the liberals right now as he leaves the administration, but when he was the south com commander, i talked about this with him. when you're in charge of everything, troops south of mexico, he says, look, the problem is that we don't do enough to help the economies and the living situations in those...

>> a lot of things because i know john kelly. he was south com commander and served here in miami which a community who has been built my immigrants. and many who came here poorly educated and have made themselves americans and have assimilated and have built this great and vibrant american city. >> he seems to be saying these immigrants are coming to the country with too little education and too few skills. too little to contribute to american society. hasn't every wave coming in have been less educated and less skills and they get that

Halftimes that number to 1.8 million. the difference between 690001.8 million were the people that some would say were too afraid to sign up, or others would say were too lazy to get off their asses to get up. >> ana navarro and steve cortez. >> i wonder what goes through your mind when you hear these comments from john kelly. >> a lot of things because i know john kelly. he was south com commander and served here in miami which a community who has been built my immigrants. and many who came here poorly educated and have made themselves americans and have

Apart is that we always know the right thing to do is to step forward and to speak up and say i screwed up. and that's the first step to, you know, getting on the road to redeeming yourself. and so far what he has done instead is every time he made -- had one of the missteps he doubled down on it. that behavior is the kind of thing that just isn't consistent with our values. >> that is exactly what donald trump does as well. and you know, you mentioned, you said he never really takes responsibility for his own mistakes or even says i'm sorry, or i got that wrong, my apologies. you mentioned th...

Has to be solved within the white house. so how do they deal with this, especially with this reporting we have that the president is really not feeling as if he was well served, to bill's point. >> look, this is hard for me because i know john kelly. i knew him here in miami where he was south com commander and did a great job. i am in -- i'm in awe and i have great respect for his service to this country, for the sacrifice that his family, that he and caryn kelley have suffered in the loss of their son. that being said, john failed here. he failed professionally and he failed personally. he f...