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They didn't talk to children. her mother was just gone. you can imagine that kind off trauma and having a mother who's traumatized, you learn early on that i can't bring my mother any problem or any feeling because i don't want to upset her. i want to keep her spirits up. it would be too much for her. i describe my monther in the book as a fine piece of china. we don't want to break her. my mother, when i was in high school, she lost her sister who died in her 40s and that really sent her into a depression. she didn't want to live. >> it's funny seeing your mom as a fine piece of china. i used...

Her mother goes into the hospital, no one told her that her mother went into the hospital and no one told her her mother died. back then they didn't tell you. they didn't talk to children. she didn't know what happened, her mother was just gone. you can imagine that kind of trauma and having a mother who's traumatized you learn early on that i can't bring to my mother any problem or any feeling because i don't want to upset her. i want to keep her spirits up. it would be too much for her, you know, i describe my mother in the book as a fine piece of china, don't want to break her and, you know...

>> it's funny you say your mom was a fine piece of china. i used to think of my mom as a space alien whose ship has landed her and she's stranded here and my job is to like protect her and sort of explain how things are on this planet. >> wow. i mean, that's interesting. all of this is just -- how do we, especially as men, when we're little boys growing up, we need mothers. and, you know, i think before therapy i saw my mother as the most powerful, strong woman who could handle anything and then i realized when i was in therapy, no, my mother -- my mother had to be protected. and so what happe...

Space alien arrives and says, take me to your leader. where do you go first? jesse? >> here he is. [laughs] >> welcome to my world. and then they kill you. [laughs] after you said, i should have said got filled. >> i guess i would say jeff bezos. >> i think i have to go with the nypd. like find any nypd officer. >> you are a very practical today. >> just today? >> i would go to my mom. she's a boss and she's always right. >> who would you go to?

Saw their peer do it, so they had to do it. they didn't even think whether it mattered or not. a lot of presidents had dogs on that couch. i'm sorry. i'm not a dog on the furniture kind of person. i think it's worse than that. >> bob: let me say this. i worked with kellyanne on a project. she's a very good pollster and a very good mother and i feel badly for her but frankly, i don't think it matters one bit. >> meghan: she can't catch a break but i don't understand the media's obsession. >> kimberly: what is that? it's massaging or vibrating. >> bob: my neck. >> greg: it's a space alien. >> ki...