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'60s. and now it's kind of lost its luster? >> it's lost its luster because, i don't know. people stopped dreaming about being in space. in this country, anyway. i hope his thumb can stick out like that so they can pitch the right with the russian spaceships because we don't have an actual spaceship to take you into space. and i hope the glass on the front can finally protect against that thing that grabs you. >> it's got that wonderful -- i think we are kind of gearing up, we are going to get back into space. i think the problem was when we started working together with other countries, i lik...

'60s. and now it's kind of lost its luster? >> it's lost its luster because, i don't know. people stopped dreaming about being in space. in this country, anyway. i hope his thumb can stick out like that so they can pitch the right with the russian spaceships because we don't have an actual spaceship to take you into space. and i hope the glass on the front can finally protect against that thing that grabs you. >> it's got that wonderful -- i think we are kind of gearing up, we are going to get back into space. i think the problem was when we started working together with other countries, i lik...

For a landing, for a spacecraft landing, capsules that we are now starting to design like we had years ago, they will come down in water. they may come down in land. you want to see how that is growing to work. the way to do that is drop them and see how they will survive. gregg: you don't want to end up like sandra bullock in the movie gravity in the very end, but lands in the water and fire, but punches open the door, almost drowns because it sinks. >> i don't remember all details of that scene but it was, quite a thing. only a movie. but in real life things like that might happen. we test n...

Will have some solid answers to my question why shasta. >> the little people, the big people, the spaceships. all that stuff. >> reporter: you see the spaceships? >> oh, yeah. >> reporter: okay, maybe not. in there, walking eagle communities with the -- communes with the spirits. ♪ that was amazing. does it mean that mt. shasta is magical? probably no one will ever prove it. i still think all these people are odd. i don't believe them but i like them all. thanks to them, maybe my soul is now just a little bit ajar. i feel fantastic. and i'm going to sleep like a baby. i'm nick watt from mt. ...

Is that cheating or -- this is an apples to orange comparison perhaps apples to spaceships. >> is that cheating or gamesmanship? >> corking bats is acceptable. >> if you do something that an umpire or ref doesn't see on the field and you don't report that because it's to your disadvantage is, that's not cheating. >> here's the best one. in hockey there are specific rules about how much the stick can be bent. just like in football there's rules about how much air needs to be in the ball. every player has their own preference. most of them bend a little bit more. if they're caught that is a viol...