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Apprentice" trump, russia and the subversion of american democracy. greg, thanks for being here. >> thanks so much for having me. >> listen, greg, i can't blame people and our viewers and all americans for feeling like they can't keep up with every sort of new thread that comes out everyday. we're tasked with reporting that, but people miss some things. so your book sounds like it's going to be a compendium of all of your investigation into this from talking to lots of sources close to the primary players, so what will we learn that's new? >> well, actually, alisyn, what you were talking about...

Tell us why this is significant. >> it's significant because this is evidence that the president of the united states stood in front of congress and lied about an important national security issue, and that is the department of justice saying essentially confirming that, right? the president said that he had been provided data to back up his this assertion. now anyone who works in this field understood that that wasn't true, understood the public record from the beginning. but there is this temptation with donald trump to just move on from the lies, right? he says it. it gets a little bit of c...

The president wants from vladimir putin in syria. but certainly on north korea, it's obvious. in terms of the level of the meeting, yeah, they had one long meeting on the sidelines of the group of 20 summit in 2017. it was more than two hours long. they had briefer ones on the asia economic foreign in november. people typically criticize the summits. this will get criticized because there's not a lot of diplomatic spade work. >> dana: people have to get over that and embrace the style. the president, there's concern by some that the president is going to go meet with putin and that he's going ...

Something that, as he's said several times, many times, that no other sitting president has done, which is to sit down with one of the rulers of north korea. well, any president could have had the meeting. it's what comes out of the meeting that's important. and those meetings, you don't go -- you know, we can stipulate, you know, as critical as we may be of president trump and how this is playing out, we'll stipulate that north korea bears a lot of blame. but this is how they roll. they're dupe list tuesday, erratic, understanding thuft worthy. but with just abruptly accepting the invitation ...

Well, any president could have had the meeting. it's what comes out of the meeting that's important. and those meetings, you don't go -- you know, we can stipulate, you know, as critical as we may be of president trump and how this is playing out, we'll stipulate that north korea bears a lot of blame. but this is how they roll. they're dupe list tuesday, but with just abruptly accepting the invitation to a summit in march on the say-so of south korean emissaries without any spade work by his own american diplomats. so less than being duped, he simply bumbled into this and maybe out of it. >> p...