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Nominee. after that i felt paul was always chasten, always looking over his right shoulder. i believe he could have lost his speaker position over it, so i believe that's the main reason he didn't push back more. >> why would it matter, because he said he didn't want to be speaker in the first place. that's what he said. >> i guess if he wasn't going to run anymore, why not push back? i felt he should have pushed back more. he had every opportunity to. there were times he spoke up, but i felt it should have been stronger. in fact, more of the leadership should have been speaking out more becau...

People. tim ryan was on that list many, many times. who is a household name? the biggest fundamental problem with the democratic party is they have no bench of people who can take over. everybody who they have is the oldest whitest person humanly possible, which is supposedly not what the democrats want. i don't know who wants the speaker position. >> dana: we do know nancy pelosi does. >> of course nancy pelosi does. you will get punched in the face every day by the president of the united states. are you sure you want this? >> dana: i wanted to ask you about the rust belt. this is an importa...

Ryan just now. paul ryan, 236 votes. you needed 218 to be elected. that was -- even though it seems like a close margin, it's a relatively comfortable margin. one thing kevin mccarthy, the house majority leader, who was considering running for the speaker position right after mr. boehner announced his resignation, he did not want to run because he was worried he would only get 219, 220 votes. so the fact ryan was able to get some folks on the right to back him is significant. now, yesterday i had a chance to speak to one of those leaders of the house freedom caucus, labrador, who did vote for ...

Reluctant yes, a conditioned yes. paul ryan realized if he were to walk away from this position, he would be viewed at selfish and someone who did not step up when his party needed him. and he's not going to have to fund raise like john boehner did. i think he realized the speaker position will allow him the opportunity to move forward on these policies. but most importantly he got the -- not the full-on endorsement of the freedom caucus, but a motion of support from them where he thought, hey, i'm not going to come under the gun like boehner and mccarthy did, i'll get a few months at least of...

Meeting that has just surfaced. in the next few hours, paul ryan will meet with a few members of the house freedom caucus, the conservative group that's taking credit for knocking off john boehner from the speakership, and ryan will be meeting with some members of that group later tonight. it's not a formal meeting of the freedom caucus, i'm told, just a get-together. ryan's staff saying, look, he never denies fellow members an opportunity to speak with him if they want to speak with them. as to where he is in terms of making a decision, the latest from his spokesperson saying, quote, i don't ...