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Introduction one of the fun things about obama is he uses the word perfect less as an adjective and more as a noun, that we're always on a march forward. >> we talked about this a lot, e.j., coming up with the process of it. there aren't a lot of presidents who are known for their speaking ability. we tend to think president equals great orator. obama is in a pretty small class of great presidential orators. >> lincoln, obviously, although we've never been able to hear him. but you had both roosevelts, you had bill clinton, john kennedy, and ronald reagan. and i think the fascinating think is ...

Privile rivals, just $2 million through september, and doing so well in opinion polls. >> they gave me a review on my speaking ability the other day and they gave me great marks, really great. in fact i said maybe i should do this and charge and do it professionalsly. you know what they said? his one mistake is he speaks through the applause. in other words people are applauding, and i speak through it. you know why? because i'm so excited about talking about this stuff. because, you know, i don't want to wait for the applause. does that make sense? but the other thing they said, sometimes he ...

Country, jamie. [laughter] let me ask you this question, this is the broader question that this brings up as we see people exit the race. first this question, jamie. there are those that are amazing leaders, that are great leaders, and there are those that are amazing, great campaigners. who do we really want as president, and how does that question really weigh in to the remaining field? >> well, i mean, that's a great question, you know? it's sometimes you might be a great leader, but you cannot be elected in this day and age in presidential politics. think about mitch daniels. people wanted...

Capitalize on their success. jeremy peters, april ryan, paul seger. so you guys matter in this. so let me get your thoughts about this. who do you thing did well? give me a couple names. >> i think rubio outperformed. he speaks very well to these working class upward mobility themes that are going to be really prominent in the election. >> let's stick with that one. you like rubio, too, right? >> i like rubio. he really hit the ball out of the park. when he talked about various issues. but i thought kasich -- >> i want to stick with rubio. all three agreed on rubio. how can the republicans run...

Pick up marco rubio in your fantasy policy draft that exists only in the minds of in other words like me. he has a speaking ability, care is ma and will be able to raise enough money won't be in jeb bush territory but enough money of he's cuban-american one of the faces, if not the face of the new republican party. i think this is someone who bears a lot of watching. he's going to announce at 5:30 next monday so the field continues to grow more and more crowded as we continue to wait for hillary clinton's exact announcement time. >> okay thanks to you and kristen welker. coming up more from pa...