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Lifting cohen's analysis in it? so who does that leave, renato? >> you're looking at the wrong -- >> hold on a second. i'll give you your chance, professor. >> it's an individual -- >> hold on. i -- >> hold on, professor. let's hear what renato says. i'll cull back to you. i promise. >> i'm sorry. >> he meant it. go ahead, renato. >> first of all, i would not count out michael cohen. he's done things that make no sense before. i have no idea why he's on television talking to not only, you know, journalists but also actors and other random people. i mean he's doing a lot of things that make no ...

Professor. >> it's an individual -- >> hold on. i -- >> hold on, professor. let's hear what renato says. i'll come back to you. i promise. >> i'm sorry. >> he meant it. go ahead, renato. >> first of all, i would not count out michael cohen. he's done things that make no sense before. i have no idea why he's on television talking to not only, you know, journalists but also actors and other random people. i mean he's doing a lot of things that make no sense. so it wouldn't surprise me if michael cohen did anything. you know, you have an attorney who is willing to tape his client. he certainly is...

They wouldn't have gone in if they didn't have good evidence and we know from the special master process they got so many more documents. remember, they just got those million plus documents turned over to them. so they will need to wrap their arms around them before they charge him. and it may be that they're not in a position or really wanting to meet with him even if he -- which he seems to be willing to meet with them now because they want to get those documents and really dig into them before they meet with him because we will be a cooperator that they will want to test his credibility ex...

The emotional distance, these are trying times for anyone looking at federal jail time and that kind of liability and the search on his material. plus, whatever he knows about what's in there speak to that. and yet at the same time, he hasn't been charged. >> he hasn't been charged. but i think, you know, all signs point to he's going to be. and, you know, while prosecutors don't usually announce that ahead of time, they have done that in as many ways here as they could by executing as we have discussed before, you know, a search warrant that would have required a high threshold that they woul...

Prosecution at some time in the not-too-distant future. the attorneys he originally hired were hired to h him navigate thecongressional process. this case has obviously burgeoned into something completely different, so he wants somebody from new york. second reason according to a couple of sources is money. this is an expensive particularly whe have large law firm going through the laborious task of going through a million pieces of paper or documents, or whatever it is, right as part of a special master process. so it becomes really expensive. so the question is whether he wants to kind of na...