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Anderson, what i'd say, if this is true, it is jaw droppingly illegal, immoral and unethical for any citizen to do this. but for a retired general officer to do this, it's even more damaging. primarily because you give me the honary yum of calling me general hurt ling. you know, we keep that as we're retired, which means we kind of stay connected to the oath of office and the oath of allegiance to defend the constitution. this is a guy who is alleged to have been doing something against the government of the united states to collect money from a foreign government. it just to me is bizarre and...

Special operator was killed and at the time the president took criticism for using the phrase they lost them him, they meaning the military commanders and not saying i as commander in chief accept ultimate responsibility. here perhaps not quite as much separation. the president is factual when he's saying that he did not approve of this particular raid. and it is true that the president has loosened up the sort of chain of command for some of these raids, allowing the commanders on the ground, whether in africa, afghanistan or elsewhere, to make those decisions. that's true. but it does still ...

Isis of course also wanting to extend its tentacles especially in this region that does provide quite fertile ground. they do take advantage of vulnerable populations and there are plenty of them in this area. >> you heard president trump talking about whether he authorized the mission. what do you make of this response? is he an solving himself of responsibility for the loss of the four shoulders? >> well, it's interesting. you may remember a raid some months ago in yemen where a u.s. special operator was killed and at the time the president took criticism for using the phrase they lost them ...

Position where i turned a corner and did what any s.e.a.l., any ranger, any special operator would have done. i saw bin laden. he was a threat, he was not surrendering. i treated him as if he were a suicide bomber which i assume he was and shot him in the face three times. then the team did what we always did, gathered as much intel as we could and left. >> to your point about thinking you wouldn't come home from this mission, you had conversation with your wife and children, your father that you otherwise would not have had for another mission. >> yes. when we left virginia to go on the missi...

Matter. i was able to watch as we went up the stairs. when we got to the top, i was in position where i turned a corner and did what any s.e.a.l., ranger, special operator would have done, i saw bin laden, he was a threat, he was not surrendering. i treated him as if he were a suicide bomber which i assume he was and shot him in the face three times. then the team did what we always did, gathered as much intel as we could and left. >> to the point about thinking you wouldn't come home from this mission, you had conversation with your wife and children, your father that you otherwise would not ...