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Special sessions in the evening, special orders where he went after the democrats as traders, not loyal to the country. his tactics are so vicious. is every democrat you don't like corrupt? are they traders? i know the ends justify the means sometimes. do you justify them there? >> no, i don't. his style has calmed down a bit. it's too hard charged in the day. i want to point out, i'm one of the few members of congress who sponsored a bipartisan piece of legislation that worked on it. the agricultural appropriation bill. i believe in bipartisanship. while newt does have a bombastic style, you ...

Projections of $2.7 trillion for the next decade. after four years, we had surpluses of $2.3 trillion. unemployment went to 4.6%. welfare reform was accomplished in which childhood poverty was decreased and two-thirds of the people on welfare got jobs. now, this was done under a bipartisan administration, working with bill clinton, and sometimes fighting bill clinton very famously and very openly. and yet, despite the chaos, the achievements and the accomplishments speak for themselves. and that's why i think he's doing so well among republican voters who have been watching this whole process ...

Corrupt, that was his word. he likes that word, "corrupt." he organized special -- what do they call them -- special sessions in the evening, special orders, where he went after the democrats as traitors. his tactics are so vicious. is every democrat you don't like corrupt? are democrats traitors? i know the ends justify the means sometimes? do you justify them there? the means he used to get in power? >> no, i don't. and i think his style has calmed down a little bit, and i think it was too hard charging in the day. and chris, i want to point out, i'm one of the few members of congress who ha...

Achieved that. >> i don't think we have achieved. i think what we just-- what our origin tent, and we moved forward on this, was to have reasonable debates things on hot buttton issues, taxes, health care and wars in iraq and we would present our argument in a rational debate kind of forum and treating everybody respectfully and other's points of view and disagreeing at the same time. >> kelly: congressman? >> we actually did that, we've had two debates on the floor, doing what's called special orders at night, that are-- that were televised on c-span and i think we did well in the sense that ...

And it was disgusting. and, you know, it was a mistake. but when you do special orders, i do my one minutes -- i speak from the hip. i obviously went further than i should have. and i have apologized to the american anti-defamation league and the jewish defense, you name it. but i'm pleased to the message -- the message i said was true that they've been lying and they've been doing it over and over and over again and that's been their game. and i don't think we have had a good message on our side to respond to it. >> and i think a lot of liberals in this country admire you for calling them lia...