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Undocumented but it should not include citizenship. he reminded me that in the last amnesty, as he called it, that ronald reagan put through in the mid 80s, he said a good percentage of those that came out from under the shadows and became legal never -- decided never to go through the path to citizenship. he's saying now that immigration reform should include after the border has been secured and the conditions are met. that it should have a pathway to legal station for the undocumented but no special path or unique path to residency and citizenship. he says that's something he believes could...

This idea of the path to citizenship. however, that is different from what former speaker pelosi said where she is saying if there is no special path to citizenship for the 11 million, it's a no go. >>well, it is going to require compromise. and bottom line, we have to give people a path to citizenship. i think we have to move expeditiously on all phases of the issue, and bottom line, i'm skeptical in an election year, and i'm curious what mercedes thinks, that there will be any compromise, because bottom line, the republican party is divided between the establishment and tea party wing, and i...

But it's worth going back and take a peek at some of the reporting this morning from "up with steve kornacki." thank you both. you can watch steve every weekend at 8:00 a.m. appreciate you sticking around. also this week, house republican leaders unveiled an immigration plan at their annual retreat. t plan that they're working on offers no special path to citizenship for all illegal immigrants. but it would allow some to remain in the u.s. under certain conditions and it would allow children brought here to be eligible for citizenship. but it can't happen until after specific enforcement tri...

If we do not, our party's appeal will continue to shrink to its core constituencies only. does it matter if it's pragmatism or not? whether they really want it or not. >> i'm not sure how much it matters. the important thing is it's happening. and especially for the young people, the dreamers, for so many people who have been struggling and looking for a way to be part of this country, it does matter. and for the republicans, it's not just a question of, say, political survival, there really is a tremendous potential for rewards for them. because polling by latino decisions shows that about 1/...

Own to do right what their parents did wrong. martha: including a path to citizenship. your bill, which you hope will come out at the end of the summer, right? >> the path to citizenship that ours would provide is a regular system not a special one. that is the difference between our approach and a the d.r.e.a.m. act. the d.r.e.a.m. act would create a separate path to citizenship. ours says after you have our nonimmigrant resident if you want to be a resident you'll have the right to do that but you have to do it like anybody else who has a nonimmigrant visa. we wouldn't have a special path fo...