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There. let's bring in our aviation expert, richard quest, also joining us the veteran airline pilot, kit darby. richard, first of all, you have some new information, a statement just released from the national transportation safety board? >> yes, wolf. this follows on from the statement made by the head of transportation in the investigating authority in malaysia, in kuala lumpur a few hours ago. they said they were going to be seeking further expertise from the faa, and the ntsb. and for those who with specialist knowledge of radar. the national transportation safety board, who are by far and...

Involving vaseline. so -- but it would take specialist knowledge to know that. so you have to imagine that they knew that the vaseline was potentially a key piece of evidence, and that takes them away, i am sure, everyone would think this, from being the kids, the teenagers trying to help friends, into a much more serious situation, doesn't it? >> well, they don't necessarily have to have been specialists themselves. but if the only thing that tipped them off was a text message that said "take what you need," then it was obvious that somebody was told beforehand what it was that had to be take...

That contained the remains of some fireworks. they picked a computer. they picked vaseline. now, i don't know whether vaseline is or is not involved in bomb-making. if it is, that, of course, makes it yet more sinister. >> right. we did check this out and apparently it is used. there is a particular thing you do with some of the leads involving vaseline. so -- but it would take specialist knowledge to know that. so you have to imagine that they knew that the vaseline was potentially a key piece of evidence, and that takes them away, i am sure, everyone would think this, from being the kids, th...

So three kids covering up i think trivializes it somewhat. also, they acted fairly deliberately. i think they knew from their -- from their roommate what the nature was of the material they were trying to dispose of. oddly, they picked a backpack that contained the remains of some fireworks. they picked a computer. they picked vaseline. now, i don't know whether vaseline is or is not involved in bomb-making. if it is, that, of course, makes it yet more sinister. >> right. we did check this out and apparently it is used. there is a particular thing you do with some of the leads involving vaseli...